Proposal: Nyr-car

[bfaust30]

Staal + Jensen + 4th rounder for Brett Pesce. Something on the lines of this. Rangers need to get rid of some depth and that contract. Carolina wants the prospects and Staal can play with his brother.

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[MMC]

Carolina hangs up

 

[DaveG]

cmon, no way. Pesce's younger then Jensen and is exempt in the upcoming expansion draft. The other assets coming Carolina's way would have to be ridiculous for us to even consider trading out Pesce for Staal.

 

[Brock Anton]

What's the incentive for Carolina here? To bail out the Rangers?

 

[sheriff bart]

No team in the league is going to tie up an expansion protection spot on MStaal. Give up on the trade ideas.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I don't think we're going down the "he can play with his brother" road any more.

The time to try and trade Marc to Carolina was about 3 years ago.

 

[GoldiFox]

So the Canes downgrade to a wildly expensive D who plays the wrong side and pick up Jensen for their trouble? Thanks but no thanks.

 

[Skobel24]

Staal + Jensen + 4th rounder for Brett Pesce. Something on the lines of this. Rangers need to get rid of some depth and that contract. Carolina wants the prospects and Staal can play with his brother.

Nobody is taking Staal (unless the Rags really make it worthwhile for someone). He's overpaid, declining, and his NMC is going to screw just about any team come expansion.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Canes have no reason to do a deal like this. Pesce was very good last year along with their other young defensemen.

 

[Roboturner913]

I don't think Carolina would be opposed to trading Pesce for forward help at some point, but Marc Staal does absolutely nothing to help Carolina right now.

 

[Savant]

What's the incentive for Carolina here? To bail out the Rangers?

Look at TS proposal history this summer and see for yourself.

 

[bsbarmchairgm]

Is even Staal+Jensen for Hainsey a no from Carolina?

And how much would NYR have to add to a Staal package to acquire Murphy?

Hanifin, Pesce, and Slavin are exempt, but I guess Carolina will protect Faulk in the expansion draft? That leaves the possibility to protect 2 more defensemen out of Hainsey, Murphy, Tennyson, Lowe, Carrick, Robertson...

 

[RangerGuru]

Apologies, Canes fans,, pretty damn bad for you guys

 

[GoldiFox]

Is even Staal+Jensen for Hainsey a no from Carolina?

And how much would NYR have to add to a Staal package to acquire Murphy?

Hanifin, Pesce, and Slavin are exempt, but I guess Carolina will protect Faulk in the expansion draft? That leaves the possibility to protect 2 more defensemen out of Hainsey, Murphy, Tennyson, Lowe, Carrick, Robertson...

There is no deal where Staal to Carolina works. Staal is a boat anchor that would only stand to stunt the development of Slavin (currently a top-pairing D) and Hanifin (a future top-pairing D). Add in Haydn Fleury, Trevor Carrick, and Jake Bean and there is no room for Staal. Even at 50% retained and adding Buchnevich, the Canes likely still say no.

 

[vipernsx]

Carolina is rebuilding and stocked full of blueliners, why do they want Staal?

 

[PG Canuck]

There is no reason to ever take Staal for any team. He has to be protected becaus of his NMC and that just won't fly with any team around the league, hence the Rangers wanting to move him, or the fans I should say.

You will not get anything close to value for Staal.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

And how much would NYR have to add to a Staal package to acquire Murphy?

Hanifin, Pesce, and Slavin are exempt, but I guess Carolina will protect Faulk in the expansion draft? That leaves the possibility to protect 2 more defensemen out of Hainsey, Murphy, Tennyson, Lowe, Carrick, Robertson...

You guess the Canes would protect Faulk? Of course they will.

Here's the thing. Canes have to expose at least one defensemen who is signed for 17/18 and has played a certain number of games. Hainsey and Tennyson are ufas at seasons end so they don't count. Hanifin, Slavin and Pesce are exempt. Lowe and Robertson, and likely Carrick won't play enough NHL games. So that leaves one of Faulk or Murphy. So, losing Murphy and gaining Staal (who I think had a NMC) would leave Faulk as the one that has to be exposed, since Staal had a NMC and that isn't happening.

I think Murphy sucks and I also think Staal will have a much better season than most think, but contracts and the expansion draft have to be taken into account.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Staal + Jensen + 4th rounder for Brett Pesce. Something on the lines of this. Rangers need to get rid of some depth and that contract. Carolina wants the prospects and Staal can play with his brother.

What prospects?

 

[bernmeister]

Carolina hangs up

and it should
terribad OP

Apologies, Canes fans,, pretty damn bad for you guys

x2


I have been pushing for Pesce, but not such a ridiculous offer

stepan and 3 Ranger 3rds
for
Pesce, Murphy, cap dump Bickell and 2 Cane 2nds and return of ranger 2nd

 

[One Winged Angel]

and it should
terribad OP


x2


I have been pushing for Pesce, but not such a ridiculous offer

stepan and 3 Ranger 3rds
for
Pesce, Murphy, cap dump Bickell and 2 Cane 2nds and return of ranger 2nd

How ironic.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Terrible for Carolina. They have zero reason to do this.

OP, was there ANY thought put into why Carolina would do a deal like that? Because I know if the roles were reversed, you sure as hell wouldn't do it.

 

[Machinehead]

A bunch of stuff lying around the drawer for your good young top 4 defenseman.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Deal!

 

[Shootertooter]

I have been pushing for Pesce, but not such a ridiculous offer

stepan and 3 Ranger 3rds
for
Pesce, Murphy, cap dump Bickell and 2 Cane 2nds and return of ranger 2nd

you think the other offer is worse than this? Stop trying to sell Step, he is not going anywhere! And in the event that he is moved, it will be for an established stud RHD like Barrie...and I am not thinking that this will happen either.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Terrible for Carolina. They have zero reason to do this.

OP, was there ANY thought put into why Carolina would do a deal like that? Because I know if the roles were reversed, you sure as hell wouldn't do it.

No. The OP makes a new Rangers proposal almost every day and it is either us completely ripping one team of or the Rangers completely getting ripped off. Nothing in between.