Nylander contract discussion - New Poll

[ACC1224]

Just saw this, he interviewed with Friedman and Marek today.
Looks like we shouldn't expect a signing any time soon.

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[WTFMAN99]

Just saw this, he interviewed with Friedman and Marek today.
Looks like we shouldn't expect a signing any time soon.

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There is definitely a play book.

 

[TMLegend]

Hope Willy stays. Not part of the problem in my opinion, that's all I'll say on the topic.

 

[freshwind]

just read the excerpt ... but i do not blame willie in the least, he is the least of the problems with this club ...
he earlier said he is willing to sign a team friendly deal as long as others do ...
every issue comes down to matthews, period ...
i am hoping we do not lose willie because of the greed shown by our 2 supposed leaders in the m&m pair
nylander always takes the crap from the media and the fans ... and the strange thing i find is he seems to be the best as far as temperament goes for this market
our new gm has not overly impressed me up to this point but i will somewhat reserve judgement to see how it all plays out, lots of wild cards for this season
his off season will be 100% be judged on what happens with matthews ...
for the record, i am in the sign willie camp and would have moved marner before his nmc kicked in
let's hope brad has a plan

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

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What I will say is I'm sure for ever example like this, there's probably 1 or 2 more where the player actually stays.

I'm not too worried about Willy. Worst comes to worst he can still be traded even if it's as a rental (so we can recoup something vs nothing which still isn't ideal). I'm way more concerned about Matthews. Something tells me we either give him a crippling blank cheque or he's gone.

I guess Willy really is looking for $10MM+ and there just isn't any justification for it. $9.5MM is the max I'd feel comfortable going. I know it's been beaten to death, but if Nylander is indeed waiting to see if Matthews takes a paycut, then I'm fine with this taking time (but only to a certain extent).

 

[ACC1224]

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There is definitely a play book.

My post was made more to point out the 'lots of time' statement, not insinuating he's lying like others have.

 

[Suntouchable13]

What I will say is I'm sure for ever example like this, there's probably 1 or 2 more where the player actually stays.

I'm not too worried about Willy. Worst comes to worst he can still be traded even if it's as a rental (so we can recoup something vs nothing which still isn't ideal). I'm way more concerned about Matthews. Something tells me we either give him a crippling blank cheque or he's gone.

I guess Willy really is looking for $10MM+ and there just isn't any justification for it. $9.5MM is the max I'd feel comfortable going. I know it's been beaten to death, but if Nylander is indeed waiting to see if Matthews takes a paycut, then I'm fine with this taking time (but only to a certain extent).

That’s the thing, you can not have 3 forwards (after JT’s contract expires) making 10+. You really don’t need that many forwards making that much against the cap. I am 100% against that. I do not care by how much the cap is going up. You don’t need that many high priced forwards. I hope they trade one of them in the next couple of years.

 

[WTFMAN99]

What I will say is I'm sure for ever example like this, there's probably 1 or 2 more where the player actually stays.

I'm not too worried about Willy. Worst comes to worst he can still be traded even if it's as a rental (so we can recoup something vs nothing which still isn't ideal). I'm way more concerned about Matthews. Something tells me we either give him a crippling blank cheque or he's gone.

I guess Willy really is looking for $10MM+ and there just isn't any justification for it. $9.5MM is the max I'd feel comfortable going. I know it's been beaten to death, but if Nylander is indeed waiting to see if Matthews takes a paycut, then I'm fine with this taking time (but only to a certain extent).

My post was made more to point out the 'lots of time' statement, not insinuating he's lying like others have.

I know what you're both saying, I actually think I would be a little bit more cool about this if he had any other agent.

 

[rumman]

Will the new GM be held ransom like the last GM, inquiring minds want to know……….

 

[ACC1224]

I know what you're both saying, I actually think I would be a little bit more cool about this if he had any other agent.

Who's his agent and why are you worried about him?

Will the new GM be held ransom like the last GM, inquiring minds want to know……….

Old GM certainly put him behind the 8 ball to start.

 

[Menzinger]

He'll probably be extended by sometime by the late fall.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Who's his agent and why are you worried about him?

Lewis Gross - same agent for all the quotes I provided, this is his playbook.

Same like the playbook for contract disputes for the RFAs that don't have leverage or arbitration rights, "rumors" of that player going to Russia or Europe will emerge etc.

 

[francis246]

My only thing is in the cases you showed, the organization screwed themselves. The organization said no to Gaudreau earlier in the off-season. He was willing to stay Brad T didn’t want to pay him.

Accari took more in Pittsburgh, Saad didn’t the Blackhawks trade him?

 

[ACC1224]

Lewis Gross - same agent for all the quotes I provided, this is his playbook.

Same like the playbook for contract disputes for the RFAs that don't have leverage or arbitration rights, "rumors" of that player going to Russia or Europe will emerge etc.

I've always believed that you take what's said publicly with a grain of salt.
I'm sure Gross has had many clients that have re-signed with their current clubs.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I've always believed that you take what's said publicly with a grain of salt.
I'm sure Gross has had many clients that have re-signed with their current clubs.

Probably - this came up too

Lewis Gross clients: -Gaudreau (Left CGY as a UFA) -Krug (Left BOS as a UFA) -Saad (Left CHI and COL as UFA) -Dumoulin (Left PIT as UFA) -Acciari (Left BOS, FLA, and TOR as a UFA) -Iafallo (Re-signed with LA) His clients usually test the UFA market.

NHL Contracts by Agent Lewis Gross | Puckpedia

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[LeafsFan89]

Willy is the least of the problems in Toronto imo. He actually performs in the playoffs, so I would like to keep him.

It's encouraging to see him say this to be honest. But other players like Gaudreau and JT said similar things and they walked.

I feel if Matthews takes a team friendly extension, Nylander signs the next day. Both signings probably won't happen until the fall.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Willy as a human is very cool. Look at the guy. Doesn't give a shit about fans or what journalists say. Gotta love him. Is the only core guy to get dunked on in public and it doesn't bother him.

 

[PromisedLand]

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There is definitely a play book.

I see your bet and....

I raise the bet to.... (wait for it....)

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[PromisedLand]

just read the excerpt ... but i do not blame willie in the least, he is the least of the problems with this club ...
he earlier said he is willing to sign a team friendly deal as long as others do ...
every issue comes down to matthews, period ...
i am hoping we do not lose willie because of the greed shown by our 2 supposed leaders in the m&m pair
nylander always takes the crap from the media and the fans ... and the strange thing i find is he seems to be the best as far as temperament goes for this market
our new gm has not overly impressed me up to this point but i will somewhat reserve judgement to see how it all plays out, lots of wild cards for this season
his off season will be 100% be judged on what happens with matthews ...
for the record, i am in the sign willie camp and would have moved marner before his nmc kicked in
let's hope brad has a plan

Nylander hopes to work out long-term contract, stay with Maple Leafs | NHL.com

'There's no other place I want to play,' says forward, unconcerned about looming free agency

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[Nineteen67]

Are there no mirrors up north?

 

[Arzak]

I see your bet and....

I raise the bet to.... (wait for it....)

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Tavares explains why he didn't notify the Isles he'd be leaving ahead of the 2018 Trade Deadline - Article - BARDOWN

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Good old times. Tavares was $5.5M player. Let us double it and call it Leafs hometown discount.

 

[IPS]

Willy as a human is very cool. Look at the guy. Doesn't give a shit about fans or what journalists say. Gotta love him. Is the only core guy to get dunked on in public and it doesn't bother him.

He handles the media better than 99% of players here do. Marner should honestly take a page out of his book.

 

[Arzak]

He handles the media better than 99% of players here do. Marner should honestly take a page out of his book.

But Marner is elite on PK

 

[socko]

If anyone walks its on Shanahan. What a chump. "We took discounts in Detroit" speech and then proceeds to give Marner at least $2 million more than can possibly be justified. Fires his GM, only after getting his feelings hurt, a month before these NMCs go into effect on the greedy core. Now the team is completely at their mercy. Just an awful person to employ, that should have been shown the door a long time ago.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Nylander hopes to work out long-term contract, stay with Maple Leafs | NHL.com

'There's no other place I want to play,' says forward, unconcerned about looming free agency

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Yeeeeah he’s gone. Maybe Matthews too at this point.