MR4
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Nylander’s Playoff Breakout
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Black hat blue eyes
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Only one who showed up from the big four (JT gets a pass this time due to inj)
Wille played great and with heart.
Wille played great and with heart.
The Iceman
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LastOne2100
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He was our best player in the playoffs by a landslide - really put in an effort every shift and really stepped up when JT went down.
Naturally Dubas the wizz kid will trade him away as he's the only contract he didn't completely bungle so he still actually has value.
Naturally Dubas the wizz kid will trade him away as he's the only contract he didn't completely bungle so he still actually has value.
The Iceman
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I have been the biggest Marner backer but what can anyone say in his defence. He needs a fresh start somewhere.
Stephen
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It's always down to the Marner vs Nylander debate, so here's the latest recap.
Nylander's cap hit is low enough that he can live up to expectations at a reasonable level of growth and he's a better natural athlete than Marner. Maybe not the 'ultra creativity' but he's stronger, bigger, can battle, has a shot and can carry the puck cleanly which sadly isn't always the case with Marner. He's been buried a little bit being demoted from the Original Big 3 to a Medium 2 behind the Matthews Marner Big 2. His utilization has been low and his regular season numbers haven't skyrocketed. He should be kept and trusted with more.
Nylander's cap hit is low enough that he can live up to expectations at a reasonable level of growth and he's a better natural athlete than Marner. Maybe not the 'ultra creativity' but he's stronger, bigger, can battle, has a shot and can carry the puck cleanly which sadly isn't always the case with Marner. He's been buried a little bit being demoted from the Original Big 3 to a Medium 2 behind the Matthews Marner Big 2. His utilization has been low and his regular season numbers haven't skyrocketed. He should be kept and trusted with more.
Not My Tempo
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If they trade Willy, then JT, Brodie and Muzzin might be the only likeable guys on the team left.
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Menzinger
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One of the few players who fought tooth and nail through the series. He needs to be part of the next version of the TML, whatever shape that may be.
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He broke out against a team that wouldn't have been in the playoffs in the regular season. Hurray.
Willy has been better the last year and change but I still think he's part of the problem culture-wise. I'd sell high.
Willy has been better the last year and change but I still think he's part of the problem culture-wise. I'd sell high.
I think a move with the core is coming... Rielly may not be back, but I expect one of the forwards to be gone...
If it happens to be this guy, I will be demanding Dubas be fired. If anyone has Shanahan's contact info please PM it to me.
Nylander at that salary, is a keeper without question.
If it happens to be this guy, I will be demanding Dubas be fired. If anyone has Shanahan's contact info please PM it to me.
Nylander at that salary, is a keeper without question.
hamzarocks
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Marner gtfo
Nylander + Matthews get one more Crack at it
If we fall next year I'll sell anyone and anything to get Connor Bedard and then make sure we have a management team that doesn't f*** up building around the guy.
Nylander + Matthews get one more Crack at it
If we fall next year I'll sell anyone and anything to get Connor Bedard and then make sure we have a management team that doesn't f*** up building around the guy.
His performance these playoffs deserves just that.
Still boggles me as to why Marner/Matty weren't split up.
Willy was on and ready. I hope he's here next year.
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I like his growth, and he has been earning it.
I will take his passing over anyone's on the team, some might make pretty plays, but he gets the puck to target with speed and accuracy, carries the puck as good or better than anyone on the team, skates extremely well, sometimes doesn't push hard enough.
I could see him being moved, his contract is value added.
Deserves better than he gets in Toronto.
I will take his passing over anyone's on the team, some might make pretty plays, but he gets the puck to target with speed and accuracy, carries the puck as good or better than anyone on the team, skates extremely well, sometimes doesn't push hard enough.
I could see him being moved, his contract is value added.
Deserves better than he gets in Toronto.
stickty111
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The second Dubas even thinks about trading Nylander over Marner. Fire him on the spot.
Peasy
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It's a travesty if he ends a casualty of marner's and Matthews' poor play.
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If he keeps his job after this......I can't even. But hey. MLSE was dumb enough to let a rookie run the team after drafting 1st overall so they're clearly not the sharpest crayons in the box. At least they got rid of those old guys.
Menzinger
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Yep.
Unfortunately he likely seems easier to trade even though he shouldn't be touched first. Will come down to how serious of an offseason does the front office want.
Super Mega
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He's always been good in the playoffs but he seemed to hit a new gear this year, our best forward by a very large margin.
One of the few bright spots for this season.
One of the few bright spots for this season.
DavePoulin4PM
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He played well. Now is the time to sell high. He will never get another easier matchup in the playoffs.
DavePoulin4PM
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He has absolutely not been good for the Leafs previously in the playoffs. He was fantastic this series, however and was the Leafs best forward. He deserves a ton of credit for his play this series and this season.
hamzarocks
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Hopefully he's gonna be our 1RW with Matthews once Marners sent out so we need ppg+ from him and carrying the offense
I think you're wrong here. Even if you forget about the fact that he was the only one of our forward "core" to actually produce (5 goals 3 assists in 7 games). Nylander did things that even he doesn't typically do. He threw some some nice hits and seemed to play on Turbo for most of the games.
Fair if you think we should sell high, but i'd say he isn't part of the problem. Always the last guy to leave the rink, always their for the optional skates, and while you're right he put up points against a team that wouldn't have normally made the playoffs, what does that say about Marner and Matthews who combined just barely beat out Nylander's total points for the series.
