Proposal: NYI/NYR

[impaaaaaact]

I know, I know... hear me out though. Ryan Pulock and John Gabriel Pageau for Mika Zibenajad as basis for trade. Add small pieces as needed.

- Pulock and Mika contracts both run until 2030. Pulock at 6.15 and Mika at 8.5 JGP 5M and expires this season
- All players have trade protection but are more willing to waive because they won't have to move.
- Isles will have Cal Ritchie on an ELC for 3/4 years of Zibenajad's contract. Good insulation for him, and if he develops well maybe he overtakes him.
- Pulock insulates Schneider and lets him develop properly while he's still on bridge deals and stuff. NMC turns into NTC after this season and Drury can Drury him if he wants more easily than Mika.
- JGP stopgap C option for Rags until they inevitably go after someone huge in 2026 offseason.

Who says no?

 

[cwede]

NO

 

[impaaaaaact]

NO

lololol

 

[blinkman360]

I just don't see the point for the Isles. Not sure why we're trading for a 32 year old signed for 5 more years coming off his worst season in a long time, while trading two key players ourselves. Like if you want to get a guy like that for futures(and a cap dump), cool. If you want to sell off Pageau and Pulock for futures, cool. Doing a swap like this though comes off like we have no idea wtf we're doing or what direction we want to take the team in.

Personally, I want no part of Zibanejad. Hold on to Pulock since he would actually be a pretty solid D partner for Schaefer, on paper at least. Sell off Pageau to the highest bidder, whether now or at the deadline. Keep getting younger and avoid bringing in these giant contracts for the time being. JMO.

 

[JKG33]

That seems like a massive win for NYR. Pulock as a top 4 RD signed long term should have some decent value. JGP doesnt have a great cap hit but for 1 year its fine with how in demand those type of middle 6 centers are.

Zibanejad with his shitty contract and inconsistencies just doesnt hold that kind of value.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I just don't see the point for the Isles. Not sure why we're trading for a 32 year old signed for 5 more years coming off his worst season in a long time, while trading two key players ourselves. Like if you want to get a guy like that for futures(and a cap dump), cool. If you want to sell off Pageau and Pulock for futures, cool. Doing a swap like this though comes off like we have no idea wtf we're doing or what direction we want to take the team in.

Personally, I want no part of Zibanejad. Hold on to Pulock since he would actually be a pretty solid D partner for Schaefer, on paper at least. Sell off Pageau to the highest bidder, whether now or at the deadline. Keep getting younger and avoid bringing in these giant contracts for the time being. JMO.

I don't think Mika is on a full on decline yet, and would give us two very solid Cs in the top 6. Might thrive away from MSG, similar to what teams are expecting to happen with Marner. He would be our 2C, which could also prove beneficial for him.

As far Pulock you're right about him being a good partner for Schaefer, but I don't mind Schaefer partnered with Mayfield who will actually protect the kid. Pageau is not part of our future plans so I don't consider him important here.

 

[impaaaaaact]

That seems like a massive win for NYR. Pulock as a top 4 RD signed long term should have some decent value. JGP doesnt have a great cap hit but for 1 year its fine with how in demand those type of middle 6 centers are.

Zibanejad with his shitty contract and inconsistencies just doesnt hold that kind of value.

I think fans of other teams may have an outdated perception of Pulock, potentially from the ECF runs. He's settled in as a solid veteran defenseman, but he's not a huge needle mover. Just a good player.

Isles have a few options for RHD in front and behind him so I'm willing to let him go for a 65-ish point center, especially after the hole that Nelson has left.

For the Isles, the actual full swap from last season would be

Brock Nelson ------> Mika Zibenajad
John Gabriel Pageau ------> Cal Ritchie
Ryan Pulock ------> Adam Boqvist
------------ ------> Col '26 1st
-------------------> 6M cap space

That to me is a big overall win season over season

 

[The Crypto Guy]

NO

 

[JKG33]

I think fans of other teams may have an outdated perception of Pulock, potentially from the ECF runs. He's settled in as a solid veteran defenseman, but he's not a huge needle mover. Just a good player.

Isles have a few options for RHD in front and behind him so I'm willing to let him go for a 65-ish point center, especially after the hole that Nelson has left.

For the Isles, the actual full swap from last season would be

Brock Nelson ------> Mika Zibenajad
John Gabriel Pageau ------> Cal Ritchie
Ryan Pulock ------> Adam Boqvist
------------ ------> Col '26 1st
-------------------> 6M cap space

That to me is a big overall win season over season

I just think this trade is a mismanagement in assets for the Isles. Once Ekblad/Gavrikov/Provorov are off the UFA board, there's going to still be a few teams with cap space and assets to burn.. they'll offer something decent for a guy like Pulock. Ditto for JGP once the already thin C market really clears out.

Zibanejad meanwhile, especially given NYR's desperation to open up cap room and his trade protection, could be had for practically free like Kreider and Trouba before him

 

[impaaaaaact]

I just think this trade is a mismanagement in assets for the Isles. Once Ekblad/Gavrikov/Provorov are off the UFA board, there's going to still be a few teams with cap space and assets to burn.. they'll offer something decent for a guy like Pulock. Ditto for JGP once the already thin C market really clears out.

Zibanejad meanwhile, especially given NYR's desperation to open up cap room and his trade protection, could be had for practically free like Kreider and Trouba before him

That makes sense honestly. Good point.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't think Mika is on a full on decline yet,

Why would you think this though as he obviously is?

His decline is also being sheltered by playing in NY (which doesn't totally change in this trade except the quality of linemates) but against other divisions, particularity the Central his decline has been off the cliff the last 3 years.

and would give us two very solid Cs in the top 6. Might thrive away from MSG, similar to what teams are expecting to happen with Marner. He would be our 2C, which could also prove beneficial for him.

As far Pulock you're right about him being a good partner for Schaefer, but I don't mind Schaefer partnered with Mayfield who will actually protect the kid. Pageau is not part of our future plans so I don't consider him important here.

Forwards just don't generally age as well as Dmen do and no one should be interested in Zib given the hit of 5 years on his contract he just doesn't bring it anymore.

 

[SML2]

What in the name of Ron Duguay's hair doo is this? A trade between the Rangers and the Islanders? Never!

 

[doomscroll]

Moving Zibanejad just to manage cap doesn’t really make sense this summer, since the Rangers aren’t pressed against the ceiling after moving Kreider. They have just under $15 million in space to re-sign Cuylle, Miller, and two spare forwards/7D. If anything, they’ll probably have space for a middle/bottom-six FA forward addition after signing everyone they need to without having to move additional cap.

 

[Glorydays22]

I know, I know... hear me out though. Ryan Pulock and John Gabriel Pageau for Mika Zibenajad as basis for trade. Add small pieces as needed.

- Pulock and Mika contracts both run until 2030. Pulock at 6.15 and Mika at 8.5 JGP 5M and expires this season
- All players have trade protection but are more willing to waive because they won't have to move.
- Isles will have Cal Ritchie on an ELC for 3/4 years of Zibenajad's contract. Good insulation for him, and if he develops well maybe he overtakes him.
- Pulock insulates Schneider and lets him develop properly while he's still on bridge deals and stuff. NMC turns into NTC after this season and Drury can Drury him if he wants more easily than Mika.
- JGP stopgap C option for Rags until they inevitably go after someone huge in 2026 offseason.

Who says no?

absolutely No from the isles.... We can get more for Pulock and JGP in separate deals...Rangers would have to add big in my opinion.

 

[TGWL]

I don't care for Pulock. If teams are viewing Zibanejad as a dump then I'd rather just wait and see if he produces better than making lateral moves, which this seems to be doing for both teams.

 

[Zeeker]

Isles laugh and hang up

 

[isles55]

absolutely No from the isles.... We can get more for Pulock and JGP in separate deals...Rangers would have to add big in my opinion.

I’d be shocked if they can get anything for Pulock.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I’d be shocked if they can get anything for Pulock.

Good player, dependable, probably not going to decline much over the next four or five years.

That being said, agreed. Don't think he'd return much, if anything he could be involved in a trade for a similar forward...good 2nd liner but not a player you'd see on the first line, first pp, etc.

Don't mind being stuck with him at his cap hit.

 

[Sparksrus3]

I know, I know... hear me out though. Ryan Pulock and John Gabriel Pageau for Mika Zibenajad as basis for trade. Add small pieces as needed.

- Pulock and Mika contracts both run until 2030. Pulock at 6.15 and Mika at 8.5 JGP 5M and expires this season
- All players have trade protection but are more willing to waive because they won't have to move.
- Isles will have Cal Ritchie on an ELC for 3/4 years of Zibenajad's contract. Good insulation for him, and if he develops well maybe he overtakes him.
- Pulock insulates Schneider and lets him develop properly while he's still on bridge deals and stuff. NMC turns into NTC after this season and Drury can Drury him if he wants more easily than Mika.
- JGP stopgap C option for Rags until they inevitably go after someone huge in 2026 offseason.

Who says no?

NO !!!!

OMFG

JUST GO BE A RAGS FAN

 

[lanceuppercut75]

(1) Pulock in my opinion would garner lots of interest league-wide. No reason to trade to Rangers. At least 5 other teams would be interested for the right price

(2) A few teams in the league are totally set at right handed D, and won't trade for one without sending another one out. Islanders and Rangers are both this kind of team. They have Fox Borgen Schneider. Doubt they would trade for a right-handed guy if you're also saying in the OP that they plan to keep Schneider.

 

[n8]

I know, I know... hear me out though. Ryan Pulock and John Gabriel Pageau for Mika Zibenajad as basis for trade. Add small pieces as needed.

- Pulock and Mika contracts both run until 2030. Pulock at 6.15 and Mika at 8.5 JGP 5M and expires this season
- All players have trade protection but are more willing to waive because they won't have to move.
- Isles will have Cal Ritchie on an ELC for 3/4 years of Zibenajad's contract. Good insulation for him, and if he develops well maybe he overtakes him.
- Pulock insulates Schneider and lets him develop properly while he's still on bridge deals and stuff. NMC turns into NTC after this season and Drury can Drury him if he wants more easily than Mika.
- JGP stopgap C option for Rags until they inevitably go after someone huge in 2026 offseason.

Who says no?

Just to play along, the Rangers need LD, not RD. Send Romanov please, thank you.
Also Pulock has a NMC.

 

[bernmeister]

I know, I know... hear me out though. Ryan Pulock and John Gabriel Pageau for Mika Zibenajad as basis for trade. Add small pieces as needed.

- Pulock and Mika contracts both run until 2030. Pulock at 6.15 and Mika at 8.5 JGP 5M and expires this season
- All players have trade protection but are more willing to waive because they won't have to move.
- Isles will have Cal Ritchie on an ELC for 3/4 years of Zibenajad's contract. Good insulation for him, and if he develops well maybe he overtakes him.
- Pulock insulates Schneider and lets him develop properly while he's still on bridge deals and stuff. NMC turns into NTC after this season and Drury can Drury him if he wants more easily than Mika.
- JGP stopgap C option for Rags until they inevitably go after someone huge in 2026 offseason.

Who says no?

yes, unless I got better offer for zib, which maybe/maybe not little-> no retention, but could see w/signif retention

I don't think Mika is on a full on decline yet, and would give us two very solid Cs in the top 6. Might thrive away from MSG, similar to what teams are expecting to happen with Marner. He would be our 2C, which could also prove beneficial for him.

As far Pulock you're right about him being a good partner for Schaefer, but I don't mind Schaefer partnered with Mayfield who will actually protect the kid. Pageau is not part of our future plans so I don't consider him important here.

I don't see Mika physical decline for 3+ min of his remaining 5 yrs
whether or not he is suf motivated to keep his head in the game is another story
my guess is he will learn from this exp, but I am happy to move on
return here is not enticing, but 2 chunks of cap hit easier to move than 1, and I prefer to go younger after moving

Moving Zibanejad just to manage cap doesn’t really make sense this summer, since the Rangers aren’t pressed against the ceiling after moving Kreider. They have just under $15 million in space to re-sign Cuylle, Miller, and two spare forwards/7D. If anything, they’ll probably have space for a middle/bottom-six FA forward addition after signing everyone they need to without having to move additional cap.

Disagree

would move cap

 

[miscs75]

Stick to watching the Mets and boasting about how Uncle Steve got him his luxury box.

 

[SI90]

This might be one of the most disrespectful proposals for Pulock.

 

[UnSandvich]

Dont really see this working for either team tbh. NYR already have their right side locked up long-term, and don't have the space to take the extra Pageau cap dump this season. NYI wouldn't really have much interest in Zibanejad