Proposal: Nyi-lak

[KingCanadain1976]

I get why it makes sense for the Kings. Just was confused when it said the Islanders want to get bigger while Lee is a big guy. Didn't know he wasn't a physical player. I'd love to get Lee but King + Nolan seems a bit of a weak proposal.

I never give my best offer at first i alway try to lowball and go up from there. My offer could also add a defenseman like greene or mcnabb maybe gravels play has impressed me and i think one of them two are expendable in the right sorta deal We need skill in our top 6 and getting rid of king will help ensure that. Lee is 6 3 and king is bigger at 6 4 and a bit more physical Nolan is also a lot more physical normally It would also give nolan a opportunity to play more

 

[KingCanadain1976]

I hear ya...I understand where you guys are coming from. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I did recently hear that LA/NYI might be talking about a muti-player deal. Someone mentioned it could involve a 3rd team. Sounds interesting if nothing else. lol

yes had me thinking of something like gaborik to you de hann and king to the leafs and jvr to us I have thought also thought of the magically 3 way

 

[Glorydays22]

yes had me thinking of something like gaborik to you de hann and king to the leafs and jvr to us I have thought also thought of the magically 3 way

No way we would touch Gaborik at 34 yrs old and 5 more years on a contract paying him almost 5M per.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

No way we would touch Gaborik at 34 yrs old and 5 more years on a contract paying him almost 5M per.

You don't want to touch him. He might break.

 

[Glorydays22]

You don't want to touch him. He might break.

lol, yeah your right. He did have 1 good playoff run for you right? Last year or the year before.

Unfortunately you guys have 2 bad contracts right now with him and Brown. I just don't see how anyone would take them. Our team, just guys haven't lived up to the hype.

 

[go4hockey]

Giving up Lee makes no sense for NYI.
But like I said, I think my proposal of Halak and Quine for Nolan and Clifford, but don't score are mainly 4th liners is a fair deal for both.

Let's not forget, Halak is not a bum. So he got hurt last year. Look at the year he had for the Isles the year before. and what he did in Montreal and St.Louis.

I get I'm not asking for full value, only because of his salary. I just don't see how this isn't a win win for both teams. Quick is hurt for a while.

We do not need or want a goalie paid like a starter. He makes too much and is very average. We would be better of playing with what we have as he is playing well. The need for s goalie in LA is over were fine how we roll.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

lol, yeah your right. He did have 1 good playoff run for you right? Last year or the year before.

Unfortunately you guys have 2 bad contracts right now with him and Brown. I just don't see how anyone would take them. Our team, just guys haven't lived up to the hype.

He had a GREAT playoff run in 2014. 14 goals in 26 games. Tied the franchise record I believe.

Even last year Gaborik was showing his age and unwillingness to go to the dirty areas for goals. Probably 75% of his goal (probably all NHL player's goals) are scored in close to the goalie. For whatever reason he didn't want to do that last season. Maybe it's a fear of getting injured again. Who knows.

At least Brown is playing pretty well this season. Still not playing up to that contract but he's been a useful player this season. Gaborik, I'd be shocked if he played every single game from the time he returns to the end of the season. He'll probably get injured again sometime this season.

 

[Chardo]

No way we would touch Gaborik at 34 yrs old and 5 more years on a contract paying him almost 5M per.

I would. His age and contract reduce the cost to acquire. If he has anything left (and his performance in world cup showed he does), he's an ideal wing for Tavares.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

gaborik played really well in the world cup . He was one of the best players on team europe. He was playing his best hockey in years imo. Yes he got hurt however this idea of him being fragile is a little over played to me. I think he would do well in the east Its less physical then the west.

 

[Glorydays22]

I would. His age and contract reduce the cost to acquire. If he has anything left (and his performance in world cup showed he does), he's an ideal wing for Tavares.

Not for 5 years more on that contract. And let's be honest. I'm a diehard Isles fan. We are NOT just 1 player away. There has to be better opinions for us

 

[Chardo]

Not for 5 years more on that contract. And let's be honest. I'm a diehard Isles fan. We are NOT just 1 player away. There has to be better opinions for us

They can afford the contract and risk. And you'd be surprised at how just one player can change that team. It would drastically improve the top line and PP, two massive problems. It allows Clutterbuck to slide back to the checking line where he belongs, restoring that competitive advantage. It reduces the pressure on Bailey to create with Tavares, or allows you to move him off that line. They're juggling players trying to find a top line fit, causing many players to be out of their element. Put a legit guy there and players can slot where they belong.

 

[Glorydays22]

They can afford the contract and risk. And you'd be surprised at how just one player can change that team. It would drastically improve the top line and PP, two massive problems. It allows Clutterbuck to slide back to the checking line where he belongs, restoring that competitive advantage. It reduces the pressure on Bailey to create with Tavares, or allows you to move him off that line. They're juggling players trying to find a top line fit, causing many players to be out of their element. Put a legit guy there and players can slot where they belong.

No we can't we only have 2M cap space. And we have JT contract coming up soon as well as some others like Clutterbuck, Strome and Nelson

 

[Chardo]

No we can't we only have 2M cap space. And we have JT contract coming up soon as well as some others like Clutterbuck, Strome and Nelson

Teams up against the cap routinely find ways to add good players. Trading Halak would free up the space. Kulemin and Grabovski come off next year for those future contracts.

 

[kilowatt]

No way we would touch Gaborik at 34 yrs old and 5 more years on a contract paying him almost 5M per.

In all fairness, with regards to the longevity of his contract, there's almost zero chance he makes it all the way to 39. He'll either retire or be put on LTIR.

 

[member 88115]

Lee has more top six skill then King. Nolan is sitting more then playing. Even when playing hes not standing up for players which is why hes out there. king and nolan are 2.9 mill maybe we could get them to hold .75 of his contract ? Lee is the type of talent we need in top 6 till gaborik comes back Also it ensure kings isn't there

Lee is signed for two more seasons after this current one (his actual dollars being $4.5 Million & $5 Mil the last two years). With us having to resign Toffoli, Pearson, Dowd + others i don't see us having the money to fit everyone.

We have plenty of 2nd/3rd line wingers in the AHL in Marsh, Auger, Kempe if Gaborik/Purcell can't cut it.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Lee is signed for two more seasons after this current one (his actual dollars being $4.5 Million & $5 Mil the last two years). With us having to resign Toffoli, Pearson, Dowd + others i don't see us having the money to fit everyone.

We have plenty of 2nd/3rd line wingers in the AHL in Marsh, Auger, Kempe if Gaborik/Purcell can't cut it.

If we have all this ahl talent why aren't they being called up ? Kings want to keep them down for a reason I have no idea why but this trade would open up one of them coming up to replace nolan Most king fans complain about the lack of talent in the top 6 aka king purcell clifford all playing there This would rid us of king playing there and make me happy

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Clifford
Forbert

For

Sheahan
Nosek

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Clifford
Forbert

For

Sheahan
Nosek

No thanks i like clifford in our bottom 6 and Forbort is finally coming around. Not the time to give up on him

 

[member 88115]

If we have all this ahl talent why aren't they being called up ? Kings want to keep them down for a reason I have no idea why but this trade would open up one of them coming up to replace nolan Most king fans complain about the lack of talent in the top 6 aka king purcell clifford all playing there This would rid us of king playing there and make me happy

And risk losing Pearson or Toffoli just to trade King. Not worth it. Might as well trade for Halak and screw our cap. But we all agree that is a mistake

 

[Riseonfire]

I was only trying to address the op saying the islander need size and grit This trade gives them what they are after

Agreed that the proposed trade gives the isles size and grit, but I still pass.

I think the isles need skill, not more grit.

 

[go4hockey]

Clifford
Forbert

For

Sheahan
Nosek

We haven't wait this long for Forbert to show some promise just to move him No thanks.

 

[go4hockey]

If we have all this ahl talent why aren't they being called up ? Kings want to keep them down for a reason I have no idea why but this trade would open up one of them coming up to replace nolan Most king fans complain about the lack of talent in the top 6 aka king purcell clifford all playing there This would rid us of king playing there and make me happy

They are keeping them down cause they are not quite ready. Well Merch is but the others need another year. You should be happy we develop players instead of tossing them in to soon and wrenching them.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

They are keeping them down cause they are not quite ready. Well Merch is but the others need another year. You should be happy we develop players instead of tossing them in to soon and wrenching them.

There's a fine line between waiting long enough and waiting to long imo The kings are guilty of waiting to long in most cases. The kings need to trust there development system more imo. A good example is mersch The kings power play is near the bottom of the league The pp is one of the things Mersch plays well on. Why he is not up getting time on it is frustrating to me.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

We haven't wait this long for Forbert to show some promise just to move him No thanks.

No thanks i like clifford in our bottom 6 and Forbort is finally coming around. Not the time to give up on him

Forbert isn't a deal breaker for me, can be replaced with a player that can go to the minors, or a player in the minors.

Glad Forbort is developing well.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

Forbert isn't a deal breaker for me, can be replaced with a player that can go to the minors, or a player in the minors.

Glad Forbort is developing well.

To be honest I don't want to rid us of any of our prospects or younger players. We need to play them more then we do. I think we wait to long to play them and we use stop gap players when we should be playing youth The kings need to believe in there prospects more and play them to fill holes instead of moving bottom 6 players up to fill holes Aka king playing top 6 mins when mersch or kempe or another player from the ahl is better suited to the mins.

to be honest i wouldn't want the kings to trade for younger players i would rather get picks and develop them ourselves Our team seems to find players that fit what we are looking for in later rounds Our latest proof of this is nic dowd draft 7 th round