Proposal: NYI-Edmonton

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To Islanders---

Puljujarvi​

To Edmonton ---

Beauvillier​

Change of scenery for both.

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[SupremeTeam16]

This isn’t a bad proposal but Beau’s contract would make it hard to do as when fully healthy the Oilers are right against the cap with only a 21 man roster so they wouldn’t be able to fit the difference between the two contracts.

Also the extra year could be problematic. With Jesse if he doesn’t rebound they can trade him for whatever they can get or just walk away. If Beau doesn’t rebound they could be stuck with him which would negate their cap maneuverability next season.

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

Edmonton says no for a couple of reasons.

 

[HolyGhost]

Edmonton says no for a couple of reasons.

and they are........

 

[IIxGURUxII]

Values is close enough for Edmonton to consider.

Edmonton says no due to contract ( length and dollar amount )

And that it makes an already weak right side worse

 

[McJedi]

Oilers should say no. Don’t trade for dubious contracts with term.

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

and they are........

Mentioned above my post

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Swap Beauvillier for Mayfield, add a 2023 2nd from the Oilers, pack up, and call it a day.

 

[miscs75]

What benefit would swapping Beau for Poolparty do except make the Islanders slower? I’d rather keep Beau.

Swap Beauvillier for Mayfield, add a 2023 2nd from the Oilers, pack up, and call it a day.

Isles have no reason to trade Mayfield. Let alone Mayfield for a 3rd liner and a 2nd.

 

[Fist of Fury]

No fkin way! If there's 2 finnish nhl players I do not want on my team, it's Puljujarvi & Kotkaniemi. And Mayfield is not available.

 

[zar]

What benefit would swapping Beau for Poolparty do except make the Islanders slower? I’d rather keep Beau.


Isles have no reason to trade Mayfield. Let alone Mayfield for a 3rd liner and a 2nd.

You think JP is slower than Beauvillier? Yikes… tell me you don’t watch the Oilers without saying “I don’t watch the Oilers.”

I respect Bauvillier’s speed but pPuljujarvi is just as fast. Beauvillier is more skilled and probably smarter, but Puljujarvi is way bigger and stronger.

I think JP would actually fit in perfectly on the Island as a 2/3RW tweener.

 

[boredmale]

Values is close enough for Edmonton to consider.

Edmonton says no due to contract ( length and dollar amount )

And that it makes an already weak right side worse

Beauvillier can play both wings

 

[Connor McConnor]

I like Beauvillier more as a player but we can't afford $4.15 x 2 and it doesn't really address a need. Team wants to get a bit more grit in their top 6 not a small skill guy

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Islanders would have to retain or take another contract back to even make this work.

 

[miscs75]

You think JP is slower than Beauvillier? Yikes… tell me you don’t watch the Oilers without saying “I don’t watch the Oilers.”

I respect Bauvillier’s speed but pPuljujarvi is just as fast. Beauvillier is more skilled and probably smarter, but Puljujarvi is way bigger and stronger.

I think JP would actually fit in perfectly on the Island as a 2/3RW tweener.

Poolparty isn’t even worth it for the Islanders. Another streaky winger won’t help, let alone one that really isn’t going to improve the team down the line. Rather just keep Beau for an additional year, especially now that he’s starting to play his game again. The Islanders are missing one thing and the Oilers aren’t moving either guy who fits that need.

 

[ManofSteel55]

I was going to say that both sides should revisit this in the offseason, when JP is an RFA and Edmonton is looking to trade him, but I think I'd rather just not qualify him and use the cap space. I'm not interested in tying up that much salary in our roster with Beauvillier.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Isles have no reason to trade Mayfield. Let alone Mayfield for a 3rd liner and a 2nd.

Your (suspected) tone suggest the value is out of whack, but your words make it sound pretty fair. A third liner pending RFQ plus a second for a 3rd pairing pending UFA? At least a starting point.

As for having no reason to trade Mayfield, that's absolutely fair - especially being comfortably in a playoff position. But someone suggested a trade that doesn't address the Oilers needs at all. If Mayfield or an equivalent defensive blueliner aren't available, then there's not much here.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

No thanks. Beau at least has good skating even if his passing and goal scoring leaves a lot to be desired.

Poolparty provides...umm...uhhh...a cool nickname I guess.

 

[miscs75]

Your (suspected) tone suggest the value is out of whack, but your words make it sound pretty fair. A third liner pending RFQ plus a second for a 3rd pairing pending UFA? At least a starting point.

As for having no reason to trade Mayfield, that's absolutely fair - especially being comfortably in a playoff position. But someone suggested a trade that doesn't address the Oilers needs at all. If Mayfield or an equivalent defensive blueliner aren't available, then there's not much here.

The Islanders don’t really plan to move on from any on the blueline and it’s been apparently based on how Lou has built the team. Mayfield however is actually a middle pairing RHD who’s physical and truly showing his game this season. He’s not a 3rd pairing guy but gets put into that role based on how good Pulock and Dobson are. Jesse for Beau would work in a vacuum but really doesn’t benefit either team or either player honestly.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

and they are........

Cap related to start

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

The Islanders don’t really plan to move on from any on the blueline and it’s been apparently based on how Lou has built the team. Mayfield however is actually a middle pairing RHD who’s physical and truly showing his game this season. He’s not a 3rd pairing guy but gets put into that role based on how good Pulock and Dobson are. Jesse for Beau would work in a vacuum but really doesn’t benefit either team or either player honestly.

Scott Mayfield is an excellent 3rd pairing defenseman. He is simply a good 2nd pairing defenseman. With the money he's set to make in his next contract he'll probably be overpaid for what he brings, unless he's partnered with an excellent offensive 2nd pairing d-man.

I really don't see how we can fit him in unless it's a Czikas contract, like 7 years, 2.5 per but that would be idiotic, even if it's an easy buyout four or five years in.

Beau's a waste. Great motor but a cement head that has ridiculously long stretches of not impacting the game for weeks at a time happen too frequently. If he could play the way he's capable of 50% of the time he'd be a 20 goal scorer that forechecks well. He just goes missing most of the time, even playing with Nelson and Lee.

 

[miscs75]

Scott Mayfield is an excellent 3rd pairing defenseman. He is simply a good 2nd pairing defenseman. With the money he's set to make in his next contract he'll probably be overpaid for what he brings, unless he's partnered with an excellent offensive 2nd pairing d-man.

I really don't see how we can fit him in unless it's a Czikas contract, like 7 years, 2.5 per but that would be idiotic, even if it's an easy buyout four or five years in.

Beau's a waste. Great motor but a cement head that has ridiculously long stretches of not impacting the game for weeks at a time happen too frequently. If he could play the way he's capable of 50% of the time he'd be a 20 goal scorer that forechecks well. He just goes missing most of the time, even playing with Nelson and Lee.

Would you trade Mayfield for a middle 6 forward who really doesn’t bring anything except a warm body and a spot that can be ultilized by Holmstrom/Iskhakov/Dufour though? Let alone a pending RFA who’s salary could be better suited for other upgrades. I’d rather keep Mayfield through the year and make the move in the offseason that would possibly move Beau for futures giving way to the spot for the younger player to step in. That’s why I wouldn’t trade for Poolparty, let alone move Mayfield for him.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Would you trade Mayfield for a middle 6 forward who really doesn’t bring anything except a warm body and a spot that can be ultilized by Holmstrom/Iskhakov/Dufour though? Let alone a pending RFA who’s salary could be better suited for other upgrades. I’d rather keep Mayfield through the year and make the move in the offseason that would possibly move Beau for futures giving way to the spot for the younger player to step in. That’s why I wouldn’t trade for Poolparty, let alone move Mayfield for him.

I agree. I don't think Beau for PP makes any sense for Edmonton, nor for us...but Mayfield isn't in the discussion as he's worth more than both.

 

[Riseonfire]

You don't trade players like Mayfield if you're trying to have a deep playoff run. Beau can be traded for sure tho.

 

[Disgraced Cosmonaut]

You don't trade players like Mayfield if you're trying to have a deep playoff run. Beau can be traded for sure tho.

Beau has done his best work in the postseason. He’s best in the warmer months and belongs on the third line when Palms comes back.