Confirmed Trade: [NYI/CHI] #18 and #50 for #20, #54, and #61 (ALL '24 Picks)

[nbwingsfan]

Have we ever seen a trade like this happen before the draft? Have to assume one of the teams has another trade incoming.

That’s the only thing that makes sense because why else would you do this before knowing what prospects are still on the board?

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I get the Chicago fans who are wee bit unhappy with giving up an extra pick in this move.

In general though, Chicago has done a lot of drafting in recent years and even now has 16(!) picks in the first three rounds alone over the next three drafts.

At this rate, the team will basically have to move prospects in deals or watch them walk when their rights expire because there just won't be enough contract space for them all, much less a role in the system.

More darts is more darts, for sure. But gotta think Davidson has a good eye on this factor when looking at the steps the organization will be needing to take in the coming years.

Moving abundance in order to upgrade your shot at the guys your scouts truly want is a weighted decision.

This all said, the timing of the deal will seem odd until a further move by one of these teams perhaps sheds some light on why this happened now.

 

[miscs75]

Would love to be able to defend the Devils but have nothing.

Analytics. Yeah, that's the ticket.

You have 2/9 of the Brady (Hughes) Bunch. Time to hire David as an assistant, Kent as a gym, locate the other Jack, hire Ryan as a coach and do whatever it takes to make 9 Hughes one big happy jersey family.

I need the analytics about jug handles or are those with those GWB traffic studies Christie did.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

You have 2/9 of the Brady (Hughes) Bunch. Time to hire David as an assistant, Kent as a gym, locate the other Jack, hire Ryan as a coach and do whatever it takes to make 9 Hughes one big happy jersey family.

I need the analytics about jug handles or are those with those GWB traffic studies Christie did.

Tried to not use the H word since it tends to get me in trouble in these parts. Believe me, two is plenty.

But you left out the obligatory crack about not pumping gas.

 

[miscs75]

Tried to not use the H word since it tends to get me in trouble in these parts. Believe me, two is plenty.

But you left out the obligatory crack about not pumping gas.

What about a slightly used Aho or a 3 year old Mercedes with heavy water damage sold at one of those fancy “used car dealers” who sell to any one by the name of Wahlstrom? They’d both look great in black/green and red.

I’m from NY and my closest gas station pumps for me. I’ll deal with the laziness. There’s other things like the fact you guys refuse to accept Staten Island as one of your own.

 

[OTC]

Ya it's kind of bizarre, I mean maybe the Black Hawks have heard whisper of their guy not getting past 18 or 19?

Ya it's totally bizarre.

Maybe they are loading up to move again.

 

[DFF]

I'm having a hard time understanding why the Islanders would do this

You have it backward.

Your top 18 pick on your list is guaranteed to be there at 20.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

You have it backward.

Your top 18 pick on your list is guaranteed to be there at 20.

What if they had a top 16 pick that was only guaranteed to be there at 18?

*mind blown*

This trade is a win-win. Isles need more picks, Hawks need better picks or more leverage. Tidy work for both clubs.

 

[IslesNorway]

Isles may need to stockpile picks to attach to bad contracts. But they also have the most barren of prospect pools so every pick helps.

I wouldn’t mind them doing one or two more of these picking up more picks.

 

[boredmale]

Just looking at the 18 vs 20th pick between 2010 and 2020, there isn't much difference. The only 2 years that stand out are 2015 where 18th got Chabot over Erikson Ek although in 2017 Robert Thomas was picked 20 over Urho Vaakanainen

I guess you might throw in 2020 where 18 Dawson Mercer was picked over Shakir Mukhamadullin

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Hahahaha THIS IS SO WEIRD

 

[TGWL]

That’s the only thing that makes sense because why else would you do this before knowing what prospects are still on the board?

For me is screams 2 reasons.
1. Islanders dont have a specific player they're targetting or hoping falls, so they are comfortable taking who falls to them while gaining another asset.
2. Chicago will try and either move up or trade that pick to get a young player making them better. With the 18th pick, It's a lot easier to target a player who might fall or be available in the draft at 15-17, than if you tried moving up from the 20th pick.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Why for Chicago?

You've got no idea at this point how the draft will fall, and you give up a 2nd for nothing.

 

[Strangle]

Has anyone worked out what the hell is going on with this move?

 

[DFF]

What if they had a top 16 pick that was only guaranteed to be there at 18?

*mind blown*

This trade is a win-win. Isles need more picks, Hawks need better picks or more leverage. Tidy work for both clubs.

Of course they gained something. Pretty heavy price to pay for moving up 2 spots at that point of the draft not knowing who is available.

 

[IslesNorway]

How high can the Hawks get with offering 18 and 50 on the draft floor? 12? 13? Teams looking to trade down would rather have that than 20, 54 and 60 probably.

 

[horner]

Why wouldn't Chicago wait till the draft. Strange

 

[gach]

In a vacuum it's a great deal for the Islanders but I'm assuming this leads to another trade because of the weird timing and nature of it.

No clue what Chicago get's out of it.

What Chicago gets out of this is a higher pick in the 1st round and a higher pick in the second round.

 

[habsterr]

According to PuckPedia, a tool to calculate draft pick value, the winner of this trade is New York.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Weird timing but ok

 

[Sarava]

Of course they gained something. Pretty heavy price to pay for moving up 2 spots at that point of the draft not knowing who is available.

And if they waited and something unexpectedly good was available at 18, then the price is way steeper or the pick is no longer available for trade.

In the end the Hawks didn't give up much. A lot of overreacting going on here. It's nearly a 3rd round pick.

 

[Dog]

And if they waited and something unexpectedly good was available at 18, then the price is way steeper or the pick is no longer available for trade.

In the end the Hawks didn't give up much. A lot of overreacting going on here. It's nearly a 3rd round pick.

It was fair trade for both teams.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

How high can the Hawks get with offering 18 and 50 on the draft floor? 12? 13? Teams looking to trade down would rather have that than 20, 54 and 60 probably.

12 PHI - I don't see them preferring 18 & 50
13 MIN - likewise
14 SJS - Maybe, they're in a big stockpiling assets phase
15 DET - If they trade 15 it's for immediate help IMO
16 STL - Yes that's too much value to pass
17 WAS - as STL

 

[dirtydanglez]

so chicago is either trying to move up further or they see a notable drop off at 18. its going to be interesting to see what they do with the pick

 

[Goal Caufield50]

I'm having a hard time understanding why the Islanders would do this

How about and extra pick in the second round for dropping 6 spaces