Speculation: NY Rangers interested in JJ Peterka?
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tlk
hARry kane comeS homE
markpenske
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Lol. This is reminiscent of the Eichel to the Rangers threads we had back in the day. Sabres are giving up the best player in the deal and Rangers fans want to horde all their most desirable assets.
tlk
hARry kane comeS homE
And all those who were saying that Buffalo got Jack shit back were proved to be right while the shitposting BUF fanboys proved wrong in more ways than one.
The cheek (or stupidity whichever) to bring that argument up lol.
Dahlicious
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Our owner is obsessed with only having "guys who want to be here" which of course is lunacy when you haven't made the playoffs since Obama's first term. But historically, if a guy has asked to be traded, the owner wants them gone yesterday (O'Reilly, Eichel, Reinhart, etc.)
old kummelweck
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I love getting Ranger and Sabres fans together on trade speculation. Hatfields and Mccoys.
I really do not see the Sabres trading Peterka. They need to add to their top 6, not subtract. Not sure I really buy that he's unhappy. I think he's probably unhappy with the GM in contract negotiations, as Adams got burned on Cozens, Samuelsson, and Power handing them money prematurely, now he's probably not willing to do a long-term deal with JJ and wants a bridge deal. They can probably make him happy with a higher-dollar bridge deal.
I really do not see the Sabres trading Peterka. They need to add to their top 6, not subtract. Not sure I really buy that he's unhappy. I think he's probably unhappy with the GM in contract negotiations, as Adams got burned on Cozens, Samuelsson, and Power handing them money prematurely, now he's probably not willing to do a long-term deal with JJ and wants a bridge deal. They can probably make him happy with a higher-dollar bridge deal.
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Beerz
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Depends.. im open to trading any player not named Dahlin.
Peterka is not one that i am actively looking to move but the right deal can get me to.
Djp
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I dont think he I'd unhapiy with buffalo as nf hus teammates. He might be frustrated with the team performsnce
Ezpz
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No he'd just trade half those assets for Hudson Fasching. Or a similar prospect with low upside drafted in the middle of the draft that had a good D+1. So Jack Devine or Cole Knuble or something.
Fairly impressive he wasn't able to get another job in hockey after his run with the Sabres. After 23 consecutive years working in the league. In the end his drafting was actually good. Getting around 8 NHLers in three drafts and three more in the draft using intel his team gathered in the draft after he'd been fired. They've had a lot of trouble hitting outside of the first round since he was canned.
Hilarious they're even considering rebuilding the rebuild of a rebuild though.
Beerz
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Actually I thought Murrys drafts were the worst thing about him.
Tho I do believe Buffalo would of made the playoffs within next 2 or 3 years had he been kept on
Beerz
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Hey I can't speak for our dumb GM ... Im speaking for myself
old kummelweck
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They all should be unhappy, but if a kid on an ELC thinks a change of scenery is how you solve that, then maybe he needs to be shown the door. He is part of that under performance. He's had some long stretches of inconsistency, which is to be expected from a young player.
I just don't really believe most of it. The whole narrative emerged from nowhere and took on a life of it's own.
Djp
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Buffalo us not shopping him but tesms are asking
Buffalo has depth on wing..who can be on 25/26 team
UFA- Zucker
For top 9 wingers...greenway, tuch, peterka, quinn, benson,...farm-- Rosen, Wahlberg,
C/W thompson, cozens, kulich, mcleod,krebs ..farm- ostlund, helenius
25/26 4th line likely malenstyn-kozak- Lafferty ( if not traded as a 1+)
On D.
XXX-Dahlin
XXX-YYY
RyJohnson-Clifton
Gilbrrt/ vet
XXX= SAMUEKSSON, POWER, BYRAM
YYY= one in XXX or they trade for someone ????
Holes-top 4 RD and a 2C, both U28 with term
Trading Peterka is an option but it would involve filling one of the 2 holes. Je isnt being moved for picks
Dahlin Thompson are not being moved unless McDavid is coming back
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Just for S & G, since I'd love to get Peterka on the Caps. (For the record, I appreciate the fact that he's HIGHLY unlikely to actually be available, it would quite dumb to trade him, this is just me 'playing along'):
Connor McMichael
Rasmus Sandin or Martin Fehervary
(+Picks, prospects not named Leonard or Hutson, yes this might include Cristall)
Connor McMichael
Rasmus Sandin or Martin Fehervary
(+Picks, prospects not named Leonard or Hutson, yes this might include Cristall)
Beerz
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No thanks.
At least it addressed our needs so kudos to that and it's not a horrible offer
eco's bones
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Again to Cuylle. I'm not saying he's a great player but it's almost like he never has a bad game and he's getting better all the time. He hits everything that moves and anyone not moving better watch it too. He never dogs it on a back check.....he's reliable away from the puck. Even when he goes for a pointless stretch he's still pretty noticeable for doing good things. It's no f***ing around North South and it's not like the coaches have to remind him all the time he screwed up here and there because he rarely makes mental errors. He keeps things as simple as possible.
In some other thread someone mentioned that Lafreniere is soft and though he's not a fighter that's not true in a physical sense at all. Lafreniere doesn't mind hitting or getting hit. Where he has been soft this year (not so much last year) is in the mental part of the game. His play has not been great away from the puck.....he doesn't always back check with energy. This is where Cuylle has surged ahead of him because Will is dependable game in and game out and Lafreniere has not been.
In some other thread someone mentioned that Lafreniere is soft and though he's not a fighter that's not true in a physical sense at all. Lafreniere doesn't mind hitting or getting hit. Where he has been soft this year (not so much last year) is in the mental part of the game. His play has not been great away from the puck.....he doesn't always back check with energy. This is where Cuylle has surged ahead of him because Will is dependable game in and game out and Lafreniere has not been.
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His idea of just picking who you want regardless of whether they'd be there later seems to have worked out. I think he gets a more favourable view since Eichel and Reinhart absolutely exploded (after leaving Buffalo unfortunately).
But Olofsson, Johnasson, Borgen, and Hagel outside of the first round in three drafts is a good batting average. His second rounders were obviously shit. Lemieux still carved out a decent fourth line career though. His parting gift was Hagel who Buffalo didn't even sign (and my own Habs invited to development camp and didn't sign). You can nitpick and say he missed a lot, especially in the second round, but in the end he got way more NHLers than league average for a draft. Unfortunately for you guys, much like the Habs, we were bad during bad draft years so those extra second rounders turned into role players instead of key pieces.
Obviously the two drafts prior to his hiring as GM got way more value with 7-8 full time NHLers between 2012 and 2013. But they also had way more high picks. And again most of those guys flourished after leaving Buffalo.
The sheer number of NHLers that were drafted by Buffalo is insane considering their playoff drought. Like is there another team with as many drafted players in the league (or recently in the league) since 2012?
Reinhart-Eichel-Hagel
Middlestats-Cozens-Quinn
Peterka-Compher-Olofsson
Lemieux-Girgensons-Benson
Willman-Bailey-Asplund-Nylander
Dahlin-Power
McCabe-Borgen
Zadorov-Risto
Bryson-Samuelsson
Johnson
Ullmark
Luukkonen
Johansson
Petersen
And that's leaving some guys off too. Just going by surnames they need to pay their Swedish scout more. Or maybe they only have one Swedish scout and one American scout based on the number of misses out of Sweden as well. That team has two cup winning #1 Cs, the entire first line are near top 10 of NHL scoring, all are top 20. The D would probably be among the best groups in the league. A Vezina winner and decent depth. Second/third lines are decent enough. Fourth, fifth, and not included yet are kind of ass but Buffalo has a ton of good parked forwards in the minors. Not to mention guys drafted before 2012 like Armia, Foligno or McNabb would complete the lineup.
Probably better than the current Buffalo roster to be honest.
Main thing I'd dunk on Murray is trying to leave the rebuild too soon. Trading for Fasching was a big gamble that made no sense. Lost a long term top 4 D in McNabb and two seconds. Trading for Gorges was understandable from a culture perspective at least, but still another second gone for a guy Habs fans were begging to retire. Trading for Kane probably disrupted any good culture that was building. Then literally a year later Buffalo is selling at the deadline after buying the year before.
I'd argue to hell Botterill immediately undid anything good Murray did. First move, trade for nathan beaulieu. Next, trade out Foligno and Ennis to get corpse of Pominville back. Foligno is still a key third liner on a contender 8 years later. Traded away toughness in Dlo for non-NHLer Zach Redmond. Second O'Reilly trade wasn't awful, but he didn't even speak with the players involved and Berglund retired rather than play in Buffalo. And let's be honest, Berglund was the main piece, despite Tage Thompson exploding later and redeeming the trade. Trades for Skinner and overpays him to stay to not lose the assets (which weren't even that high to begin with) in an attempt to appease Eichel. Traded a first for Montour and then Adams flips him for a 3rd, only for him to become an elite cup winning PMD with Florida. Can't even make up this script, it's a cycle of new Buffalo GMs selling off valuable assets for cheap.
Now watch, buffalo will can Adams and Tuch will be sold for way under market value as the main return from the Eichel trade by the new GM.
You're completely missing the point. The Sabres were always going to "lose" a deal centered around Eichel. Of course some Sabres fans were delusional in what they thought they'd get in return. More embarrassing than that was the "off limits" players and untouchable bluest of the blue chip prospects on the Rangers that went 4 or 5 prospects deep, most of whom haven't amounted to much of anything.
