Larry Brooks: NY Post 01/14/2013: Gaborik switches sides [to LW]
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Considering Nash's history playing LW (prior to last year), I find this surprising.
I guess Torts really wants Nash with Richards (he has indicated in the past that he prefers his big winger playing on the strong side of the center).
I guess Torts really wants Nash with Richards (he has indicated in the past that he prefers his big winger playing on the strong side of the center).
LORDE
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Again... Nothing permanent here. If it works, great! If not he goes back to the right. If there's a negative to this it's that a shortened pre-season (if u can even call it that) won't tell us a lot. It will have to be game tested. Gabby would've more than likely been out until about now in any event with the surgery.
It's worth a shot, though I'm not sure why Gaborik is the one to move when we KNOW Nash can play on the left side. If those lines posted are who Torts wants in the top six, I'd rather see something like this:
Nash-Richards-Callahan
Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
I know this is just an experiment and nothing permanent, but still. A little curious IMO. Although I guess with our RW depth we'll need to know eventually whether Gabs can play on the left.
Nash-Richards-Callahan
Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
I know this is just an experiment and nothing permanent, but still. A little curious IMO. Although I guess with our RW depth we'll need to know eventually whether Gabs can play on the left.
I like those 2 lines. All 6 deserve top 6 minutes and each line has an elite scorer on one side and a defensively reliable winger that can also score on the other....
The question that concerns me (as we've discussed before) is the 3rd line of Kreider-Boyle-Pyatt. Some might say ck as a rookie has to earn his ice time but I don't see that combo as a good fit offensively or defensively
The question that concerns me (as we've discussed before) is the 3rd line of Kreider-Boyle-Pyatt. Some might say ck as a rookie has to earn his ice time but I don't see that combo as a good fit offensively or defensively
BBKers
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One thing that is interesting here - if Gaborik with his speedy wheels moves to the left side - is that he will be pairing up against different defenders than previously on the right side (on the top 2 D pairings at least). I find them generally, but not always, weaker than the defenders he has been going up against on the left side. Just a thought 
Take a look and elaborate:
Vs Boston (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Zdeno Chara | Johnny Boychuk
Dennis Seidenberg | Andrew Ference[/table]
Vs Buffalo (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Tyler Myers |Jordan Leopold
Robyn Regehr |Andrej Sekera[/table]
Vs Carolina (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Justin Faulk| Joni Pitkanen
Tim Gleason| Joe Corvo[/table]
Vs Florida (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Brian Campbell |Filip Kuba
Mike Weaver |Dmitri Kulikov[/table]
Vs Montreal (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Josh Gorges| P.K. Subban
Andrei Markov| Alexei Emelin[/table]
Vs NJD (4)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Henrik Tallinder | Marek Zidlicky
Andy Greene |Anton Volchenkov[/table]
Vs Fishstix (4)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Andrew MacDonald |Mark Streit
Travis Hamonic |??
[/table]
Vs Ottawa (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Mark Methot| Erik Karlsson
Chris Phillips| Sergei Gonchar[/table]
Vs Philthy (5)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Braydon Coburn| Kimmo Timonen
Luke Schenn |Nicklas Grossman[/table]
Vs Pittsburgh (5)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Kris Letang |Matt Niskanen
Brooks Orpik| Paul Martin[/table]
Vs TML (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Dion Phaneuf |Carl Gunnarsson
John-Michael Liles| Korbinian Holzer[/table]
Vs Washington (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Karl Alzner |John Carlson
Mike Green |Roman Hamrlik[/table]
Vs Winnipeg (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Dustin Byfuglien |Tobias Enstrom
Zach Bogosian |Ron Hainsey[/table]
Please feel free to correct any mistakes you might find regarding defensive pairings!
Take a look and elaborate:
Vs Boston (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Zdeno Chara | Johnny Boychuk
Dennis Seidenberg | Andrew Ference[/table]
Vs Buffalo (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Tyler Myers |Jordan Leopold
Robyn Regehr |Andrej Sekera[/table]
Vs Carolina (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Justin Faulk| Joni Pitkanen
Tim Gleason| Joe Corvo[/table]
Vs Florida (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Brian Campbell |Filip Kuba
Mike Weaver |Dmitri Kulikov[/table]
Vs Montreal (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Josh Gorges| P.K. Subban
Andrei Markov| Alexei Emelin[/table]
Vs NJD (4)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Henrik Tallinder | Marek Zidlicky
Andy Greene |Anton Volchenkov[/table]
Vs Fishstix (4)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Andrew MacDonald |Mark Streit
Travis Hamonic |??
[/table]Vs Ottawa (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Mark Methot| Erik Karlsson
Chris Phillips| Sergei Gonchar[/table]
Vs Philthy (5)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Braydon Coburn| Kimmo Timonen
Luke Schenn |Nicklas Grossman[/table]
Vs Pittsburgh (5)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Kris Letang |Matt Niskanen
Brooks Orpik| Paul Martin[/table]
Vs TML (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Dion Phaneuf |Carl Gunnarsson
John-Michael Liles| Korbinian Holzer[/table]
Vs Washington (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Karl Alzner |John Carlson
Mike Green |Roman Hamrlik[/table]
Vs Winnipeg (3)
[table="head;width=500]LD | RD
Dustin Byfuglien |Tobias Enstrom
Zach Bogosian |Ron Hainsey[/table]
Please feel free to correct any mistakes you might find regarding defensive pairings!
pld459666
Registered User
Think it's a mistake.
There's a reason he's played in less games at LW during his tenure as a Ranger than I have fingers on my left hand.
Nash has played alot more LW in his career and if there's a player that should move it's him.
This will not last long.
There's a reason he's played in less games at LW during his tenure as a Ranger than I have fingers on my left hand.
Nash has played alot more LW in his career and if there's a player that should move it's him.
This will not last long.
I do not think so either.
Not to hijack this thread or take it on a tangent, but what I found interesting is that Krieder was not mentioned as a top-2 line forward. Either the kid starts the year in Hartford or he starts on the third line. IMO, the latter is a mistake. He needs to play as a top-6 forward. Not on the checking line. I would not hesitate to replace Hagellin on the top line with Krieder. Let the latter play with Boyle on the checking line.
Unless off course, Krieder is ticketed for Hartford. Which I just cannot believe.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
I see why he's doing it:
speed - playmaker - net crasher (scorer)
speed (scorer) - playmaker - net crasher
But I agree that it's a bit curious to take Gabby out of his normal position. Typically you play the superstar where he'll be most effective and move the other guys around him - not the other way 'round.
If it works, great - but if it doesn't, the experiment won't last long.
Wonder if this move and Torts' unprecedented praise of Gabby are in some way linked...?
speed - playmaker - net crasher (scorer)
speed (scorer) - playmaker - net crasher
But I agree that it's a bit curious to take Gabby out of his normal position. Typically you play the superstar where he'll be most effective and move the other guys around him - not the other way 'round.
If it works, great - but if it doesn't, the experiment won't last long.
Wonder if this move and Torts' unprecedented praise of Gabby are in some way linked...?
LaffyTaffyNYR
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BroadwayBlues
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Mistake Mistake Mistake.
It's like Kreider doesn't exist. And Hagelin is NOT a top 6 forward. I expect the coaches to know this.
It's like Kreider doesn't exist. And Hagelin is NOT a top 6 forward. I expect the coaches to know this.
Bring Back Avery
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Maybe Torts is doing it for the D-men match ups like BBKers pointed out. Trying to keep Gabby away from Chara, Letang and Orpik for the first couple of games. Just to see if it works.
Hagelin can't run the offense, but he's a great complimentary player. He looked fine last year in the top 6. His defensive presence can't hurt. Neither Richards nor Gaborik play much defense and Nash is only slightly better than them in that regard.
Tortorella explained exactly what his thought process is in this decision. If folks would only take the extra five seconds to read past the headline.
Stepan is a right-handed shot. His natural instinct is to go to the left with the puck. Tortorella wants Gaborik on Stepan's strong side.
http://snyrangersblog.com/2012-13-p...te-marian-gaborik-is-taking-a-spot-on-the-lw/
Its right there as clear as day.
Stepan is a right-handed shot. His natural instinct is to go to the left with the puck. Tortorella wants Gaborik on Stepan's strong side.
http://snyrangersblog.com/2012-13-p...te-marian-gaborik-is-taking-a-spot-on-the-lw/
Its right there as clear as day.
Torts wants Kreider to earn his way up the depth chart, nothing wrong with that.
Boyle is a Boston College guy, the two of them will have a lot to talk about. Pyatt being on the RW with them, its not a bad line.
Eventually Kreider will move up. He had natural chemistry with Stepan.
Boyle is a Boston College guy, the two of them will have a lot to talk about. Pyatt being on the RW with them, its not a bad line.
Eventually Kreider will move up. He had natural chemistry with Stepan.
Well, will be interesting to see what happens. I worry about experimenting with so little time in the season, but realistically every team is trying to incorporate some new players and get wrinkles ironed out
Leetch66
Registered User
If Gabby does not rack up a lot of goals before the deadline I think we seriously should consider moving him . He has been and always will be a fragile player . We could get in on the Getzlaf/Perry grab at the deadline and I would sooner have one of those guys playing the Pen/Bruins/Flyers in the playoffs than Gabby .
I know we lose a year because Getzlaf & Perry would need to be signed while Gabby already is for next season . Anaheim could possibly consider the deal because they would have a signed asset in Gabby for 2014 and then they could move him at the 2015 deadline for something .
I want a Cup...we missed out on an easy crack at it last year because we did not make the crucial moves . Sometimes you gotta give to get !!! Flame away .
I know we lose a year because Getzlaf & Perry would need to be signed while Gabby already is for next season . Anaheim could possibly consider the deal because they would have a signed asset in Gabby for 2014 and then they could move him at the 2015 deadline for something .
I want a Cup...we missed out on an easy crack at it last year because we did not make the crucial moves . Sometimes you gotta give to get !!! Flame away .
While i get why he is doing it, I think with no real training camp and a short season I don't understand why this season.
