Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,571
- 3,212
Trade Love to the Jets, Panthers, Bears, etc and see how he does. I bet he wouldn't have the same numbers (worse).
OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread XII - Time for a new QB! (Percy Harvin Edition)
- Thread starter TaLoN
- Start date
- Status
That's because i wasn't trying to compare anyone to Josh Allen.i was comparing Darnold to LoveThe stats you sent didn't include rushing yards
Again, you are the only one thinking those stats spoke anything about Darnold vs Allen without including crucial stats about Allen.
Darnold and Love are in the same tier as each other.
I wasn't the one who posted the stats that can be turned around to say Darnold is better than Allen.
You not including stats for Allen that sets him apart from most every other QB in the league doesn't mean these stats don't carry value for most other QB comparisons.
Clearly not, because you didn't even account for Love missing 2 games due to injury. You just posted season totals and ignored any sort of context.
Yes, i posted season totals in which Darnold CLEARLY leads, then called them EQUAL, because i was accounting for the 2 missed games.
Dr Jan Itor
Registered User
Malik Willis did pretty nice in the Packers' system:
129.5 QB rating (to Love's 97.8)
10.1 yards per attempt (to Love's 8.2)
73.2% completions (to Love's 63.2%)
3 TDs and 0 INTs
I certainly don't think he's better than Love; that would be ridiculous. But it seems like LeFleur runs a pretty QB-friendly system. Props to him. Great coach, great play designer, great play caller.
129.5 QB rating (to Love's 97.8)
10.1 yards per attempt (to Love's 8.2)
73.2% completions (to Love's 63.2%)
3 TDs and 0 INTs
I certainly don't think he's better than Love; that would be ridiculous. But it seems like LeFleur runs a pretty QB-friendly system. Props to him. Great coach, great play designer, great play caller.
They are to anyone not wearing cheese on their head. The stats back it up too. They have the exact same yards per completion on the season even at 8.2.
34 of his 41 pass attempts came against Indianapolis and Tennessee stacking the box lol... Let's pump the brakes.
Dr Jan Itor
Registered User
Love has a much higher EPA/play and Adj EPA/play, while Darnold has a higher completion percentage above expected. In fact, Love is 4th for Adj EPA/play and 5th in EPA/play across all quarterbacks in the league. Darnold is 10th in Adj EPA/play and 12th in EPA/play.
They are one of the worst teams in the league against the run. I think they also had a few of their front 7 injured in that game against GB.
Dr Jan Itor
Registered User
Dang, I had no idea Darnold has been sacked 45 times. That's a hell of a lot.
Kind of seems like it balances out. Darnold has better weapons, Love has more time/protection. Both have great schemers/play-callers.
Actually makes Darnold's numbers a little more impressive, IMO, considering how much he's under duress.
Kind of seems like it balances out. Darnold has better weapons, Love has more time/protection. Both have great schemers/play-callers.
Actually makes Darnold's numbers a little more impressive, IMO, considering how much he's under duress.
Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,571
- 3,212
Can I just say that I have NO idea where this pissing contest came from but I AM thoroughly enjoying it.
Continue.
Continue.
Sam Darnold has a longer time to throw average than Jordan Love per NFL's next gen stats... In fact, Darnold sits at the third highest average time to throw behind Lamar Jackson and Jalen Hurts.
I think Jordan Love is a very nice young man with a wonderful temperament and some great physical gifts. He just has suspect QB IQ and average arm talent with a propensity for throwing awkward check downs and blowing routine plays killing any YAC in the process. Hes basically a more athletic version of Christian Ponder
I don’t find Darnold to be anything more than a slightly above average qb who also has suspect qb IQ and is know for making some really boneheaded decisions with the ball. He has had a great season but he’s driving a Ferrari of an offense. I would not look to extend him for anything more than 20M and two years. He is sure to get way more than that elsewhere. I like the idea of letting our elite young rookie take over and spending the money elsewhere.I hope you scout for the vikings
Dr Jan Itor
Registered User
What stat did you find that says Love has better protection/more time to throw the ball? If you’re basing it just on sacks, Love did anything and everything to avoid being hit in his injured area earlier in the year. That includes more risky throws than usual and dirting passes. Which also explains why his interception numbers dropped dramatically once the brace came off his knee area after the bye week (9 INTs in 6 games with brace, 1 INT in 6 games after brace removal). Finally got his mobility back.
Minnewildsota
He who laughs last thinks slowest
- Jun 7, 2010
- 8,571
- 3,212
- Status
