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OT: Non-Hockey Sports Thread X - The Search is on! (Scramblin' Fran Edition)
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Could end up being a two year understudy with that leg injury. Still pretty damn old.
You're making a big deal out of 2 years. I'm not even advocating drafting him, but if the front office feels he's worth it, I won't get upset because he's 26 or 27 when he starts instead of 24 or 25.
Vikings' Troy Reeder: Comes to terms with Minnesota
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The Vikings are signing free agent receiver Brandon Powell to a one-year contract, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.
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Troy Reeder any good? I dont recognize the name. Powell could be a decent depth option given we got JJ and Osborn as 1-2 punch. Reagor maybe will get to explode now or is he off the team?Vikings' Troy Reeder: Comes to terms with Minnesota
Vikings' Troy Reeder: Comes to terms with MinnesotaReport: Brandon Powell reaches agreement with Vikings
The Vikings are signing free agent receiver Brandon Powell to a one-year contract, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.
I would. A lot of QBs that age don't have as much upside or development as a 22 year old. If they get Hooker in the 3rd or 4th fine. But 1st?
QB's more than any other position are an inexact science. I'm not going to pretend to know how or why who goes where. I will differ to KOC on this one.
Even the experts are throwing darts. Purdy was mister irrelevant
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While it is an inexact science, physical development and injuries generally aren't - Hooker is near or at the end of his physical development. There isn't a lot of growth there; it's like saying Sam Steel and Marco Rossi are equal in terms of physical development, that Steel has still room to grow. We all know that what we get is pretty much what we get with Steele.
I'd be interested to see how Purdy does in his second year now that there is tape on him. Purdy fell into a good situation with a dominant 49ers team, a great and proven coach and the fact that opponents really didn't have a lot on him other than possibly a scouting report. For every Purdy, there is Nate Stanley or a John David Booty.
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I prefer the strategy of building up the rest of the team before using a 1st rounder on a QB, so you can hopefully get a couple contending years with a QB on his rookie deal. I think we still have too many holes.
It generally only takes 3 games to figure out a new QB. Purdy won 7 regular season games in a row, then won another couple in the post season before never getting a solid shot in the conference championship due to his injury.
There was already plenty of tape on him and he was still playing great football.
I feel like this is backwards. How often do you get a Super Bowl contender with a rookie QB? Of those teams, how many drafted that QB top 5 in the draft? Are you going to get a top 5 pick when the rest of the team is good to great?
We have a decent offensive line, we have good offensive weapons, get a new QB in here preparing before the defense gets completed, so when they're good to go, the QB may also be good to go.
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Obviously if you're picking in the top 5 or top 10 and there's guy you can't pass up, you take him, but I'm mostly talking about mid-1st QBs and later. Those guys are always going to be there, so there's no rush in taking one, unless you think he's going to be the next Mahomes. It's been discussed a lot over the last 10 years on some podcasts that I listen to, just how valuable it is to have a good team around a QB making ~$10 million per season, who is notably better than a $10 million QB.
It's basically what the Eagles just did with Jalen Hurts, or what the Seahawks had with Russell Wilson when they were SB contenders.
Even though Mahomes just did it, it's hard to build a full team around a QB making $50+ million per season.
How many years does Cousins have left? I’d want a rookie QB behind a vet for at least a year. One of the reasons Love *should* be successful was because he had several years to learn behind Rodgers. Same thing with Rodgers learning from Favre.
I was going to say, I think the only example I could come up with off the top of my head was when Seattle drafted Wilson in the 3rd round. He fell due to his size and Seattle got a pretty darn good QB as a result.
Cousins hasn’t been terrible either, so it’s not like it would be bad for a rookie QB to learn from him.
Cousins only has 1 valid year on his contract. Draft one now and he's an understudy this year, maybe starting the next.
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Because mobile QBs aren't a thing in the NFL, or you know arm strength and things like that.
If only QBs could get by smarts and intelligence alone; guess what was holding back Christian Ponder was he was dumb as a rock and not his average arm strength.
Not necessarily. There is a reason why sophomore slumps are real. Look at Gardner Minshew. He had a pretty damn good rookie season 6-6 but had 3,271 yards throwing and 21-6 TD to int ratio. He struggled in his second season.
I'd stay away from Hooker. I see a Bridgewater/Ponder situation with him.
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Joe Burrow
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Josh Allen
Justin Herbert
Tua Tagovailoa
Trevor Larence now that they have the right HC
All 7 of those guys are examples of what you can do with a QB on a cheap contract.
Patrick Mahomes
Jalen Hurts
Josh Allen
Justin Herbert
Tua Tagovailoa
Trevor Larence now that they have the right HC
All 7 of those guys are examples of what you can do with a QB on a cheap contract.
Of course mobile QB's are a thing and arm strength is a thing. That's not the question though here from my understanding.
The mental side is where 90% of QB's fail. You don't need the strongest arm, and pocket passers are still the ones that tend to have the longest careers, so mobility within the pocket is more important overall when it comes to mobility. You don't need your QB to be Jalen Hurts to succeed.
If you have the physical tools (I'd say most every 1st round QB ever taken has had them), the question then remains on the mental side.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. Look at his game log...
Look at Purdy's game log...
As more film was gathered on Minshew, his game became a rollercoaster.
As Purdy got more film gathered, he continued to be excellent.
Not saying sophmore slumps don't happen, they can and do, but there are usually more than just the QB at play. Purdy, I'm sure a lot will depend on his injury recovery at this point. Mentally, the guy has "it"... that always illusive attribute that seems near impossible to quantify.
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Yes, but all those teams had a top 1-10 pick to select them. We end up drafting QBs like Kellon Mond.
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