Noesen Major for a Check to the Head on Tage Thompson

[BowieSabresFan]

Honestly, I didn't see the game - just reacting to slo mo video.

I have faith that DOPS does a good job here. Some real pros there - and consistent ones to boot.

Excellent use of understated sarcasm. I wholeheartedly approve.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Craziest part is that not one Buffalo Sabres player stood up for Thompson and went after Noesen after the hit.

Something very wrong and toxic going on in Buffalo...

Two hulking, but emasculated, d-men - Samuelsson and Power - were on the ice at the time. Wonder what Tage thinks about their lack of response?

 

[SnS]

Second time in two weeks I believe for Noesen hitting someone dirty.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Yes. It’s the ownership.

Btw…the refs didn’t even call a penalty on the play. Only after gathering the linesmen and realizing Tage was badly injured did they bother to assess anything. No arms up.

Justin Kea has a long history of f***ing over Buffalo and Rochester while reffing the games. He “missed” an elbow to Dahlin early in the game too.

He’s a dangerously petty piece of shit with an axe to grind against his previous organization and continuing to allow him to ref their games is a joke.

Not to mention Sutherland is highly overrated, incompetent and loves the spotlight. His games often get out of hand.

 

[Number8]

Ok, want to bet are accounts? If he gets suspended you delete your account?

Not only does he hit him in the head but he also extends his arm out after the hit.
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Chill out. It’s an opinion.

 

[coolboarder]

Tough call. Norsen has the right to pursuit the puck and Tage Thompson just happened to be in same vicinity

He was fishing for the puck and made the pass and just happened to hit him. He was bracing for the collusion after making the pass. I think the rules needs some tinkering. Hits like this when he made play don't deserve a major hit but the problem is that the rulebook doesn't allow for the flexibility and the league need to amend the rulebook concerning the hit to allow for grace between collusion after making the pass and brace for hit to protect himself. I think that 2 seconds after the pass should be enough to make it a penalty. If it's 1 second after the pass and collusion to any part of the body shouldn't be a penalty.

According to the rulebook, it's a major hit without the amendment to the rulebook. Hopefully that the NHL address this amendment to the illegal check to the head collusion with no penalty if there is a play made with the puck and reverse hit happened for the off-season discussion with the league rules committee. If they had this in the rulebook, this very Norsen hit will be made legal without a major penalty.; Just like the high-sticking penalty, the league has made amendment to high-sticking after the follow-through to ensure that it is not a high-sticking penalty for example.

So in other word, let's use that video as an example to amend illegal check to the head rules since he had made the play with the puck which is within his right to do it so. It is an unfortunately situation.

 

[toddkaz]

Chill out. It’s an opinion.

Chill out. Its an opinion.

I always wondered people who tell others to chill are they really chilled. Feels uptight.

 

[StrompTroller]

anyone defending this hit is brain dead. Anyone defending or cheering for the Sabres at this rate and after watching their lack of response is also brain dead.

 

[Master P]

I miss enforcers.

 

[Chainshot]

Noesen earlier in the game -





He was worked up and did something dirty after. It should be a suspension.

 

[wetcoast]

My 1st thought was how do you headshot someone 6'6" tall but that makes sense. He was leaning forward and people will bring that up but this is on the hitter. Even if Thompson was upright that hit wouldn't be going through the body

Ya that's a bad hit and he will be sitting for a game or 2.

 

[geebster]

I know you're mad, but that's just not true. Do you think Tage's shins are like 4 inches long?

Clearly, his head was at Noesen's shoulder height on that play. It wouldn't have been if he'd be skating upright.

I didn't call the hit clean or anything, but I think the league has shown that they take the hitee's last minute change in position into account historically.

Read the headshot rule. While you are right that one of the 3 criteria for a hit being unavoidable are met with Tage leaning, because Noessen was leaning then rose into an upright stance as he hit a guy who was already down, that's illegal. The leaning victim only matters if it either happened as the hit took place or the person hitting does not rise or extend in any way to get head contact. If either of those are true then the position of the player doesn't make it not an illegal check to the head. Just need main point of contact to be the head (not principal point of contact) and for the contact to be avoidable (which it is by criteria 1)

Doubt the league does much here though.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Tough call. Norsen has the right to pursuit the puck and Tage Thompson just happened to be in same vicinity

He was fishing for the puck and made the pass and just happened to hit him. He was bracing for the collusion after making the pass. I think the rules needs some tinkering. Hits like this when he made play don't deserve a major hit but the problem is that the rulebook doesn't allow for the flexibility and the league need to amend the rulebook concerning the hit to allow for grace between collusion after making the pass and brace for hit to protect himself. I think that 2 seconds after the pass should be enough to make it a penalty. If it's 1 second after the pass and collusion to any part of the body shouldn't be a penalty.

According to the rulebook, it's a major hit without the amendment to the rulebook. Hopefully that the NHL address this amendment to the illegal check to the head collusion with no penalty if there is a play made with the puck and reverse hit happened for the off-season discussion with the league rules committee. If they had this in the rulebook, this very Norsen hit will be made legal without a major penalty.; Just like the high-sticking penalty, the league has made amendment to high-sticking after the follow-through to ensure that it is not a high-sticking penalty for example.

So in other word, let's use that video as an example to amend illegal check to the head rules since he had made the play with the puck which is within his right to do it so. It is an unfortunately situation.

You WANT hits like like this to be legal?

 

[5 Minute Major]

Craziest part is that not one Buffalo Sabres player stood up for Thompson and went after Noesen after the hit.

Something very wrong and toxic going on in Buffalo...

You got that right.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I'd have to see it at game speed to be 100% sure it wasn't because of Thompson significantly altering his position but based on that clip, that was not enough contact to be considered "squarely to the opponent's body" and therefore make head contact unavoidable.

 

[Number8]

Chill out. Its an opinion.

I always wondered people who tell others to chill are they really chilled. Feels uptight.

That’s where you are going wrong. Let’s assume for a moment I'm an ass. Doesn’t mean I’m incapable of pointing out that you are most definitely acting like an ass here.

Follow?

 

[StrompTroller]

That’s where you are going wrong. Let’s assume for a moment I'm an ass. Doesn’t mean I’m incapable of pointing out that you are most definitely acting like an ass here.

Follow?

was this worth the time it took to write?

 

[toddkaz]

That’s where you are going wrong. Let’s assume for a moment I'm an ass. Doesn’t mean I’m incapable of pointing out that you are most definitely acting like an ass here.

Follow?

chill out, I was just making a joke.

 

[NJDevils17]

I’m not sure Noesen is a dirty player in general but that’s probably a suspendable hit. He’s a guy who plays on the edge because that’s what he has to bring.

He’s been caught a couple times this season with really borderline stuff. I think the DOPS hits him here and it’s probably deserved.

 

[coolboarder]

You WANT hits like like this to be legal?

If you look at the replay, you can see that he won the puck first and made the play which is a pass and didn't have time to avoid the hit. That is why I would advocate making an exemption similar to high sticking after a shooting follow-through which is not a penalty. Unfortunately, the ref has to follow the rules because there is no exemption to this example. Every player has the right to pursuit the puck in a legal way and he got there first but unfortunately, he didn't see him until the last second and braced for the hit. You can see the body language that it is not intentional. He made the play in a split decision in the natural response.