Chelios
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If you listen closely you can actually hear Whiskey furiously tapping away trying to find obscure statistics to refute this.
"Nobody is afraid of Bedard"....Bruce Boudreau
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If you listen closely you can actually hear Whiskey furiously tapping away trying to find obscure statistics to refute this.
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He just plays a game that is seen as "soft". He's like Kane. Whereas Celebrini plays "the right way" so he's seen as responsible, when the actual on-ice results are identical in both cases. Once Chicago starts winning the narrative will flip to "game breaking offensive talent".
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Hopefully meant that McDavid playing average to his own highest standards still makes him a top 5 player in the game.
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Was watching a Hawks game on espn+ to check out Bedard a couple weeks ago.
And my god it was embarrassing how much the Hawks broadcast was fawning over Bedard like he's a god or something or the second coming of Gretzky.
The hype was unreal, I can see how Hawks fans believe Bedard is more than he is, I don't blame them.
Bedard looked invisible half the game and the other half he was generating scoring chances that ultimately led to nothing.
give him good teammates, change bad habits, he's a 85-100 pt player in his prime.
(with higher scoring era not as impressive as some years)
But he's not the second coming of Crosby as Hawks media profess and insist.
And my god it was embarrassing how much the Hawks broadcast was fawning over Bedard like he's a god or something or the second coming of Gretzky.
The hype was unreal, I can see how Hawks fans believe Bedard is more than he is, I don't blame them.
Bedard looked invisible half the game and the other half he was generating scoring chances that ultimately led to nothing.
give him good teammates, change bad habits, he's a 85-100 pt player in his prime.
(with higher scoring era not as impressive as some years)
But he's not the second coming of Crosby as Hawks media profess and insist.
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Do you have a clip in particular that you are referring to so the audience can judge for themselves the merit of the statement?
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Crosby fans had a legit reason to be worried. Even though immature as it might be. McDavid won the Art Ross his second season and continued to dominate
I don't think many McDavid fans are that worried about Bedard
I personally thought he'd have a bigger impact and honestly hoped he would. I just don't see him as a McDavid/Crosby type player but I think with some future help he'll have some big seasons. He looked dangerous vs the Oil the other night
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I mean they should be a little afraid of letting him tee off like this:
If I'm not mistaken there were probably three years after MacKinnon's rookie season where people thought he'd just be a PPG guy at best because he lacked hockey IQ. Bad years for Colorado. There was a Mackinnonassaince in year 5 when he scored 97 up from 53 the previous year. Mac has size and especially speed over Bedard, though.
Still, why can't Bedard be a Kane type player? Maybe a winger role and a Toews at center would better suit him.
Still, why can't Bedard be a Kane type player? Maybe a winger role and a Toews at center would better suit him.
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You'd have to watch him play to understand. It's not the kind of thing that's going to show on boxscore stats.
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As of the time of this post, Bedard has the 2nd best Powerplay Points per 60 in the NHL for the 2024-25 season with any sort of reasonable filter (over 16 minutes of total powerplay time on the season is the min that gets you there).
Hawks powerplay sits 8th in the league in terms of percentage after tonight, between Edmonton and Florida (the two most recent SCF). Bedard has points on 23/31 Blackhawk powerplay goals on the season (71.875 %).
If Hawks weren't bottom 5 in terms of powerplay opportunities, I reckon Bedard's point totals would be better than they are.
Hawks powerplay sits 8th in the league in terms of percentage after tonight, between Edmonton and Florida (the two most recent SCF). Bedard has points on 23/31 Blackhawk powerplay goals on the season (71.875 %).
If Hawks weren't bottom 5 in terms of powerplay opportunities, I reckon Bedard's point totals would be better than they are.
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I think we need to tap the brakes on this. Bedard is hardly the first player to be criticized as a teenager in the NHL. But he is just that, a teenager. He can buy a beer in Canada...........barely. You know you must have had expectations on you when you have 109 points in 122 career games and people are disappointed. Two seasons, both just shy of a point per game on the worst team (San Jose too) in the NHL. He is relying on the power play more, and he may be dealing with a bit of a sophomore slump but that's where it ends I think. He'll get stronger, we all saw how he plays the game. They criticized Mario early in his career too. Mario of course did a lot better offensively, but Bedard was never going to be Mario.
If you compare Bedard's first two seasons to MacKinnon's first two then the winner is Bedard. Or how about the fact it took MacKinnon until his 5th season before he exploded. His first 4 seasons were not elite. His 4th season he played all 82 games and had 53 points. I will agree that when you watched him even at that time you figured it was only a matter of time before he explodes, I can remember him on the World Championship team and he certainly showed that. But it wasn't until Season 5 that he was living up to his potential.
The Hawks are horrible. Look at that lineup. And he's still rattling off at close to a point per game rate. The draft will be key. Because San Jose if they get the first pick will almost certainly want Schaefer on the back end. It makes sense. They have Celebrini and Smith up front, so you want that elite defender. That leaves, Hagens, Martone or Misa for the Hawks. That's what you need, another elite forward up there with him. Let's also remember that as much as I love Celebrini, we all loved Bedard last year too.
If you compare Bedard's first two seasons to MacKinnon's first two then the winner is Bedard. Or how about the fact it took MacKinnon until his 5th season before he exploded. His first 4 seasons were not elite. His 4th season he played all 82 games and had 53 points. I will agree that when you watched him even at that time you figured it was only a matter of time before he explodes, I can remember him on the World Championship team and he certainly showed that. But it wasn't until Season 5 that he was living up to his potential.
The Hawks are horrible. Look at that lineup. And he's still rattling off at close to a point per game rate. The draft will be key. Because San Jose if they get the first pick will almost certainly want Schaefer on the back end. It makes sense. They have Celebrini and Smith up front, so you want that elite defender. That leaves, Hagens, Martone or Misa for the Hawks. That's what you need, another elite forward up there with him. Let's also remember that as much as I love Celebrini, we all loved Bedard last year too.
