Yes, Nichuskin and Ritchie are definitely interesting to us, as well as the 26 first. Dobson would likely thrive in a role behind Makar and it would probably be the kind of trade that would look bad for us almost immediately, similar to Toews.
lol…bite your tongue….fair is not allowed
Dobson isnt an extreme offensive defenseman, he's better defensively than offensively in underlying stats. He's a puck moving dman that can defend and run his own pairing. Also, are we going to pretend that good defensemen are only one or the other? Like acquiring another young total package dman is somehow a bad thing because he can do both things?
That wouldn’t preclude them from dealing Dobson, who might be out for the year and needs a new contract.
Dobson is one of those players where the eye test doesn’t match the microstat cards. If you actually watch him you’re going to have a lot of questions about how they arrived at those numbers
This isnt a real argument. Just pointing in another direction and saying you're wrong....yeah, I remember when Evan Bouchard was hailed by the "fancy stats" as a great defender not soo long ago...good times...
I have watched and the hate for both defensively is overblown. Any team would love to have both of those players. People have said similar things about Werenski defensively, he's still not great defensively and yet he's now older and probably going to win the Norris. Analytically you are incorrect about both, both are above average in everything against their peers. You can claim otherwise but your only standing and "argument" is "what YOU have watched", which in that case, spare me....nope, this is a very apt comparison, as both Bouchard & Dobson are RH Offensive Dmen who are lacking on the defensive side of the puck, yet the "fancy stats" state otherwise...sometimes, you just need to actually WATCH...
Girard is actually pretty good defensively, breaking up plays with an active stick, he just struggles with breaking a cycle due to his size, but that's something Dobson can help with.Girard - Dobson
...are you attempting to break the +/- stat??...asking for a friend...
The irony is hilarious. Provides no stats, just opinion, claims others arent providing evidence to back up claims. Carry on....and yours is completely based on highly contextual stats in which a number of variables are not properly taken into said context...if you wish to bury your head, have at it Mr. Dubas...
Hey man I’ve watched maybe 80% of isles games since Dobson has been in the league. Feel free to go to the islanders boards and see what other posters think of his defensive game.
We have Damon Severson on our team, nuff said. I also have seen similar play from Werenski for plenty of years. These types of players improve with more experience.
Isles would realistically want to get someone who can play center, hopefully in a second line role for him.
Maybe, but he’s been in the league for like 6 years at this point without much improvement in the defensive area. There’s a chance he improves in a different system or with a different coach, but he’s had three already. Still, that’s the upside we risk trading and why his return should probably be pretty large
Yeah Canes don't really have many centers in the pipeline. Maybe FUS but he projects more as a middle 6 guy at best.
The thing is, Columbus doesnt even need him to be a top pairing D, he would be a great #3 with Mateychuk. If the price is manageable, it makes Columbus' D much better.
