Better goal scorer for sure.Yeah but Nylander is the better goal scorer and does it without the benefit of Matthews. His line mates are just a carousel of players at times and the guy just keeps on trucking along.
It is definitely tough to quantify how much the linemates play a role in these things because Matthews also benefits from playing with Marner. Still though, playing with a 69 goal scorer is sure to boost your assists and I wouldn’t put a ton of emphasis just on p/gp.
You were close. Perhaps this is the year he moves past Marner?"Missed it by that much."
Hinges pretty well 100% on who starts with Matthews and who's stuck with TavaresYou were close. Perhaps this is the year he moves past Marner?
I hear that about a lot of teams that play the Leafs. Maybe the next coach will be less inclined to instruct the team to "have some fun" and have them prepared for other team's "Stanley Cup" gamesIt is Ottawa's Stanley Cup, that is why they do well.
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I hear that about a lot of teams that play the Leafs. Maybe the next coach will be less inclined to instruct the team to "have some fun" and have them prepared for other team's "Stanley Cup" games
That's using five seasons.Last 5 years:
Player GP G A P Belak Points Auston Matthews 350 257 187 444 701Mitch Marner 335 127 288 415 542William Nylander 364 162 204 366 528John Tavares 358 137 194 331 468
Sorry - didn't think I really needed to explain the quote.You were close. Perhaps this is the year he moves past Marner?
It's not 'entirely likely' when he's never done it before but sure it could happen.Sorry - didn't think I really needed to explain the quote.
You missed the point of my post.
But you're right - it's entirely likely he passes Marner in sheer points this year, especially if Marner doesn't play with Matthews or Nylander doesn't play with Tavares.
Considering that, as I pointed out, Marner has been pretty constant over the years while Nylander has steadily improved, even ignoring context it's a quite valid expectation.It's not 'entirely likely' when he's never done it before but sure it could happen.
Now if he'd pay a little more attention to the defensive side of the game and becomes a little more of an all around player, it becomes less likely.
Who they play with shouldn't be an excuse for players at that pay level.
Yes as pointed out Nylander had much more room to improve. It's great he has but still a ways to go to be a more rounded player.Considering that, as I pointed out, Marner has been pretty constant over the years while Nylander has steadily improved, even ignoring context it's a quite valid expectation.
Who they play with isn't an excuse, but a reasonable consideration. Do you think Marner would produce as well playing with Kampf as his centre?
Showing up for one playoff game after missing three with an undisclosed injury isn't wilting?Nylander doesn't wilt in the playoffs.
Hiw about we look at how both of them finish a series for the last 6 years...Showing up for one playoff game after missing three with an undisclosed injury isn't wilting?
Would a Marner-Tavares-Nylander line work in the playoffs? Tavares gets to do his grinder work along the boards, and Marner has a shooter to get the puck to for open looks. I think they would need a solid 3C to make that work. Knies-Matthews-Domi(Between marner and Nylander - exclude Matthews)
If I want someone to set-up a goal scorer it would be marner.
If I want someone to score that goal it would be Nylander.
Again ...
Last 5 years, when they were both men (playoffs):
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Faster, stronger, better shot - Nylander
Elite spin arounds, gobbling up useless points - Marner
Nylander can play either wing, so that wouldn't be an issue.Let’s just play them together then if one scores, likely the other gets an assist so their offence is close
If one gets scored on than most likely the other gets scored on too, so their defence will be similar too
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Exactly. If you're playing "Team A" one night and "Team B" the next night you won't have time to practice different ways of shutting a team down. In a seven game series however it's totally different.Coaches don't specifically game plan against the Leafs in the regular season the way they do in the playoffs. You can clearly see when teams (like Ottawa) do come with a specific game plan, they generally do well against the Leafs.
Belak Points?Last 5 years:
Player GP G A P Belak Points Auston Matthews 350 257 187 444 701Mitch Marner 335 127 288 415 542William Nylander 364 162 204 366 528John Tavares 358 137 194 331 468
Already a more rounded player than Marner, and likely to become even more so.Yes as pointed out Nylander had much more room to improve. It's great he has but still a ways to go to be a more rounded player.