No More Soft Players & Career Losers On The 3rd & 4th Lines

[Stonehands1990]

Getting that guy was Brian Burke's #1 priority the entire time he was in Toronto, and we got what out of it again? Or would you prefer we ignored Matthews for Tkachuk or Marner for Lawson Crouse? Or maybe Nylander for third liner Nick Ritchie?

Prepare to be mindblown: you can diversify the type of players you bring into your organization. How CRAZY is that?

 

[Leaf Fans]

Hard to find big hockey players with high IQ I guess cause he hasn't drafted many.

Maybe be it is, but Dubas had drafted a lot of them.

 

[Nylander88]

Kurtis Gabriel could well be the absolute worst player in the NHL, I wouldn't even want him on the Marlies and am absolutely baffled as to why he gets any attention at all. You may as well pine for bringing Steve Webb out of retirement.

Ritchie as a 13th forward? Ok, whatever.

I thought both looked respectable this season. Ritchie more so. He really made a role for himself in Calgary. Ryan Reaves and Matt Martin are still playing hockey right now. Not saying it's all them at all...but there is definitely still a spot in the game for those types of players. I think we can definitely benefit from toughness

 

[Lightsol]

Prepare to be mindblown: you can diversify the type of players you bring into your organization. How CRAZY is that?

Yes, you can. But you're suggesting going after the rarest of all players, the power forward that can score as well as play rough. If you don't take many, many shots at it, you're going to end up with a bunch of busts. And like I said, Burke tried for nothing else, and he managed to find nothing.

 

[Stonehands1990]

Yes, you can. But you're suggesting going after the rarest of all players, the power forward that can score as well as play rough. If you don't take many, many shots at it, you're going to end up with a bunch of busts. And like I said, Burke tried for nothing else, and he managed to find nothing.

Lucic was a 3rd round pick. I’d be totally content using 1st and 2nds on BPA and taking some shots in the later rounds. Go look at our current prospect pool we only have 1 type of player

 

[Donnie740]

Toronto Sun article from yesterday, pretty much verbatim of my previous comments.

All you need to do is watch Final Four teams to see where Maple Leafs are lacking | Toronto Sun

 

[ToneDog]

Toronto Sun article from yesterday, pretty much verbatim of my previous comments.

All you need to do is watch Final Four teams to see where Maple Leafs are lacking | Toronto Sun

Never been a fan of our bottom 6 but yeah we have enough scoring. LOL.

The Leafs got no points from Ilya Mikheyev, one point apiece from Zach Hyman, Wayne Simmonds, Joe Thornton, Pierre Engvall and the injured Nick Foligno. The Islanders, for example, have seven goals from their plucky fourth line of Cikizas, Cal Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. They have 11 goals — or so — from their ever-changing third line.
Outside of Jason Spezza, who scored three times against Montreal, no bottom half player contributed much of anything for the Leafs. The big guys didn’t score. The little guys didn’t either.

The Staal-Armia-Perry line had nine goals and 23 points in 15 games, some of them coming from special teams situations.

 

[mydnyte]

Toronto Sun article from yesterday, pretty much verbatim of my previous comments.

All you need to do is watch Final Four teams to see where Maple Leafs are lacking | Toronto Sun

All the Leafs needed was for JT to not take a Perry knee to the head. ...all this blow it up talk is stupid really.
Leafs lost JT, and MTL won in 7
Winn lest their #1 C after game 1
Vegas lost their #1C after game 1

Montreal's secret to success is have the team you are playing lose a top center before game 2 is played.
TB 18 mil over the Cap and deep at all positions
NYI in cap hell next year and dont have $$ to resign their RFA's (Pelech, Sorokin, Beauvillier) unless they unload a ton of salary ...not to mention losing UFA's Palmieri, Cizikas, Zajak, Greene ...but, this majesty got Lou an award and some here wish he was still running our club (into another cap nightmare)
Vegas is also capped out and their only real 'stars' are on defense (Theo, Pietro).

the main thing that differs isnt the rosters, it the intensity, and all these teams have a much older 'core' and sprinkled youth ...our core is young, and we have sprinkled vets.

 

[mydnyte]

Never been a fan of our bottom 6 but yeah we have enough scoring. LOL.

The Leafs got no points from Ilya Mikheyev, one point apiece from Zach Hyman, Wayne Simmonds, Joe Thornton, Pierre Engvall and the injured Nick Foligno. The Islanders, for example, have seven goals from their plucky fourth line of Cikizas, Cal Clutterbuck and Matt Martin. They have 11 goals — or so — from their ever-changing third line.
Outside of Jason Spezza, who scored three times against Montreal, no bottom half player contributed much of anything for the Leafs. The big guys didn’t score. The little guys didn’t either.

The Staal-Armia-Perry line had nine goals and 23 points in 15 games, some of them coming from special teams situations.

Cizekas 3.35
Clutterbuck 3.5
Martin 1.5
...that may be the most expensive 4th line in the NHL, so, i hope they get some points

I want Hyman gone, Mik has sucked sine his return from injury and should be unloaded, Simmonds x-bar could have been the series if it went in, but, he sucked after his return from injury and shouldnt be resigned, Thornton shouldnt have been playing period, and Foligno was playing hurt...

Leafs need to fill out the lower end of the roster better, and the flat cap will turn 4-5 million players into 2-3 million players and so on down the pay scale, so, more talented low priced players should be available, as every team is cash strapped.

 

[koyvoo]

So you want career losers and soft players off the 3rd and 4th line, but make no mention of having the same problem on the top 2 lines?