No charges over Adam Johnson death

[Shrimper]

No criminal charges over death of ice hockey player Adam Johnson

Adam Johnson died after suffering a neck injury from a skate during a collision in a match.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JimmyH]

Ragebait of the first order.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Good, it was disgusting how long this was getting dragged out for.

 

[Shrimper]

Good, it was disgusting how long this was getting dragged out for.

Anyone with a brain knew that this would be the outcome. And the correct one

 

[JimmyH]

Good, it was disgusting how long this was getting dragged out for.

The only thing getting dragged out was the poor guy who lost his life. I feel bad for his parents. Grief is permanent when there's no justice.

 

[Fatass]

The only thing getting dragged out was the poor guy who lost his life. I feel bad for his parents. Grief is permanent when there's no justice.

The linked article says the crown did a thorough investigation and concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove the incident was no more than a tragic accident. Yes, the player died as a result, which is why it’s so tragic. The article also said he was about to propose to his girl too. So it’s bad all around. Maybe the player who caused the accident has suffered through this too? The article doesn’t really mention much about him.

 

[JimmyH]

concluded there was insufficient evidence to prove the incident was no more than a tragic accident

As others have said, this is an injustice. I don't know how you watch that and your first instinct isn't that Petgrave got his skate up. To me it is clear.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It wasn't on purpose or even criminally reckless, I'd even say it falls within assumption of risk of playing hcokey, but it was definitely "hockey reckless" and exactly why players can't just be flailing their legs around with sharp metal objects attached to them.

 

[branch]

That's too bad, as a hockey player you always know what your feet are doing. They don't just wildly fling about when you get lightly hit. He wasn't try to kill him but he for sure was trying to get a piece of him.

 

[Fatass]

As others have said, this is an injustice. I don't know how you watch that and your first instinct isn't that Petgrave got his skate up. To me it is clear.

That’s your opinion, which is based on watching a video. The Crown investigation didn’t come to your conclusion and they did a lot more than watch the video. They investigated for many months.

 

[JimmyH]

That’s your opinion, which is based on watching a video. The Crown investigation didn’t come to your conclusion and they did a lot more than watch the video. They investigated for many months.

Well I think I came to the correct conclusion without months of investigation. Again, the parents... their grief will flow over onto the lives of their remaining children, and further. It's the type of thing that drowns an entire family in depression, anger, sadness, forever.

 

[Maliks PlusMinus]

Whatever Petgrave’s intent was, I think we can safely say he had no intention to do what he did.
In all honesty even if it was a reckless play, even if he extended semi purposefully as he fell, he probably suffered a hell of a lot for that decision. We can never know what went through his head and he might not even know.

 

[Maliks PlusMinus]

Well I think I came to the correct conclusion without months of investigation. Again, the parents... their grief will flow over onto the lives of their remaining children, and further. It's the type of thing that drowns an entire family in depression, anger, sadness, forever.

That would happen regardless of what happens to Petgrave. A perceived justice doesn’t take that away.

 

[illone84]

Quelle surprise!

 

[Fatass]

Well I think I came to the correct conclusion without months of investigation. Again, the parents... their grief will flow over onto the lives of their remaining children, and further. It's the type of thing that drowns an entire family in depression, anger, sadness, forever.

Tragedy does impact families. It’s terrible. Not suggesting anything different.

 

[WarriorofTime]

As others have said, this is an injustice. I don't know how you watch that and your first instinct isn't that Petgrave got his skate up. To me it is clear.

This doesn’t preclude a civil suit if the family sought damages for the pain and suffering.

 

[Primary Assist]

Rest in peace Adam Johnson

 

[BonMorrison]

Insane on a hockey forum there are so many people who think he should be charged.

 

[Fishy McScales]

Well I think I came to the correct conclusion without months of investigation. Again, the parents... their grief will flow over onto the lives of their remaining children, and further. It's the type of thing that drowns an entire family in depression, anger, sadness, forever.

You are making some pretty bold claims about how his family is processing this.

You are also assuming that punishing the player in question would prevent your assumed outcome.

 

[MikeyMike01]

It wasn't on purpose or even criminally reckless, I'd even say it falls within assumption of risk of playing hcokey, but it was definitely "hockey reckless" and exactly why players can't just be flailing their legs around with sharp metal objects attached to them.

I absolutely think it rises to the level of criminally reckless, at a minimum.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Well I think I came to the correct conclusion without months of investigation. Again, the parents... their grief will flow over onto the lives of their remaining children, and further. It's the type of thing that drowns an entire family in depression, anger, sadness, forever.

A lot of times families heal by forgiveness rather than vengeance, or in your mind, justice.

A careless act? Possibly . But i am certain Pettgrave had no intentions on ending someone’s life that day.

 

[Lou Sassole]

A lot of times families heal by forgiveness rather than vengeance, or in your mind, justice.

A careless act? Possibly . But i am certain Pettgrave had no intentions on ending someone’s life that day.

Possibly?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Possibly?

Whatever

 

[Statto]

Insane on a hockey forum there are so many people who think he should be charged.

I personally think it was close to the line of being criminal and I’m honestly still not sure. In my opinion it was incredibly reckless and I’m sure I’ve seen footage of a similar play (don’t have time to find it again). The play was a high risk of an unforeseen outcome. I’ve never seen a player do anything remotely close to what he didwhen initiating body contact.

I think the right decision was probably made. It was fairly pointed that they said there was no realistic prospect of a prosecution. In my experience living under UK law the inference is that it was a close that run thing as to whether to proceed with a prosecution. It’s a difficult one. However, I don’t think it’s a slam dunk in either direction as to what the right thing to do was. I think it was right that they took time to consider it even if it was so long.

Even though I do think it was reckless, I also 100% believe the consequences were unintentional. I also hope Petgrave gets all support he needs because he is healing will take a long time, if he ever heals.

 

[JackSlater]

Good, criminal charges would have been ridiculous. Obviously what happened was terrible but it was not outside of the risks associated with playing hockey. Petgrave's punishment should be hockey related, not a court case.