MK78
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NMC's, does there need to be a CBA change
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LeafsFan89
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There is no issue. Toronto management needs to build a winning culture/not offer everyone a NMC/NTC.
rumman
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If you don’t give the player a no movement it isn’t a problem, it’s the stupidity of mgmt not the player. Ditto for over payments……….
Kazparov
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PromisedLand
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It is players' right to ask the AAV and other goodies like NMCs/NTCs
It is however management that agrees to it and gives it to them. If Leafs management can be shrewd and stop handing them out like Halloween candies then thats the first win.
Second, there have been cases in NHL where players have been asked to waive NTCs/NMCs too. To my knowledge from what I've seen (unless someone else has other info); Treliving did not approach Marner and Tavares to waive their NTCs/NMCs
My guess is that they are going to wait it out one more year. The issue also is that the current situation that Treliving inherited is not something he did; it was done by dubas. At the same time, the current full NTCs/NMCs given by treliving to matthews and nylander is something he owns up
It is however management that agrees to it and gives it to them. If Leafs management can be shrewd and stop handing them out like Halloween candies then thats the first win.
Second, there have been cases in NHL where players have been asked to waive NTCs/NMCs too. To my knowledge from what I've seen (unless someone else has other info); Treliving did not approach Marner and Tavares to waive their NTCs/NMCs
My guess is that they are going to wait it out one more year. The issue also is that the current situation that Treliving inherited is not something he did; it was done by dubas. At the same time, the current full NTCs/NMCs given by treliving to matthews and nylander is something he owns up
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Woodman19
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Its rather inconvenient when you want to make trades eh? Maybe dont give them out like candy, no reason players should get full NMC, No Discounts and longest term all at once with every big contract.
Maybe for RFA's.
Once you become a UFA and choose the place you would like to play I think it is fair to have a no movement clause if both parties agree.
Yes you get compensated extremely well, but when you have a young family, you want some stability and security knowing you won't have to pack up and uproot them.
Once you become a UFA and choose the place you would like to play I think it is fair to have a no movement clause if both parties agree.
Yes you get compensated extremely well, but when you have a young family, you want some stability and security knowing you won't have to pack up and uproot them.
Daisy Jane
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all Treliving said was he wasn't commenting either way.
which i feel is the smart thing to do.
Daisy Jane
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honestly my issue would be - the NMC etc should be limited it shouldn't be full
Buds17
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Gretzky, Gilmour and Roy were all traded prior to the salary cap era and moved for various reasons (monetary, team rebuild and demanding a trade respectively). Easing up on NMCs will likely just result in an increase of salaries while shifting the problem from one facet to another.
NMC are the death of hockey. At most there should be a limited NTC with a 6-10 team limit. Add in waiver protection for good measure.
capfit9
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100%. The origins of NMC clause was due to the Wade Redden contract with the NYR & essentially burying his entire $6m cap hit in Hartford with zero consequences on their cap space. This is no longer an issue in the league. I would be fine with a full NTC or a modified NTC.
keonsbitterness
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If the league wants more superstar player movement and the publicity that comes with it, the answer is yes. But the NHL has always been a conservative league.
As for just saying no to NMCs, that ship has sailed. You'll just end up losing too many good players to other teams.
As for just saying no to NMCs, that ship has sailed. You'll just end up losing too many good players to other teams.
Schennanigans
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Management has to just grow a pair and not hand them out like water.
ACC1224
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You realize this stuff is negotiated by both sides? What significant change to the CBA would the Owners give up to make these changes to the NMC?
You'd see way more trades by removing the salary cap than removing NMC/NTC.
Don't really see the need, doubt it would change much, and it won't be a battle that the NHL considers worth fighting.
People on here just need to accept that their trade ideas are bad.
People on here just need to accept that their trade ideas are bad.
They're already restricted to UFA years only.
BertCorbeau
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NHLPA won't allow it. GM's did it to themselves once they started to hand them out.
Realistically they give players some control on where they would like to go if traded.
Realistically they give players some control on where they would like to go if traded.
GM's want players, so GM's offer the players what they want. It's a competitive process, so GM's write cheques they can't cash. Salaries and trade protection balloon out of control. Owners lock out the players to get things under control. GM's want players, so the cycle repeats.
Ultimately, this is the fault of management, but I feel that the CBA should protect management from themselves in several ways, because it is the fans who lose out when a weak GM hamstrings his team for half a decade. Limits to NMC's and compliance buyouts would make for a better product.
Ultimately, this is the fault of management, but I feel that the CBA should protect management from themselves in several ways, because it is the fans who lose out when a weak GM hamstrings his team for half a decade. Limits to NMC's and compliance buyouts would make for a better product.
Kazparov
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Where there needs to be a CBA change is the salary cap based on net income and not gross taxable.
Cap was supposed to be a level playing field. It's not. Some jurisdictions have a clear advantage.
As the cap continues to grow that advantage becomes larger and larger.
The league will be forced to deal with it at some point.
Cap was supposed to be a level playing field. It's not. Some jurisdictions have a clear advantage.
As the cap continues to grow that advantage becomes larger and larger.
The league will be forced to deal with it at some point.
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