He really tanked his value in the past 2 months with his awful inconsistent play. I think the 3 x ring circus hampered his consistency. I also think Primeau's improved playing impacted him as Primeau was playing better than Allen.
Confirmed Trade: [NJD/MTL] Jake Allen (50% retained) for 2025 cond. 2nd/3rd round pick
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The Devils wanted the retention for more than a full season. That's obviously what drove the return in the transaction.
Ezpz
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Just next.
*Conditions: Upgrades to 2025 2nd round pick if Allen plays in 40 or more 2024-25 games and if the club that Allen is a member of qualifies for the playoffs in 2024-25
it also suggest it transfers to another club if Allen is traded.
Except they couldn't, as Allen wasn't willing to waive his NTC for NJ back then.
Allen waived as soon as he realized Primeau was consistently outplaying him. NJD is the perfect place for Allen if he wants playing time..
Jerzey Devil
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HuGort
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Looking like great deal tonight for Jersey. Watching first two periods, he's their best player
danisonfire
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Allen is worth the price paid for a bit of goaltending insurance. He always does better on structured teams.
Don't look at his stats on Montreal and take them at face value. He was getting hung out to dry, nightly.
He is not the best goalie in the world but he can definitely win you a Stanley Cup. Allen retained (50%), with a low cap hit, is great value.
Don't look at his stats on Montreal and take them at face value. He was getting hung out to dry, nightly.
He is not the best goalie in the world but he can definitely win you a Stanley Cup. Allen retained (50%), with a low cap hit, is great value.
Artorius Horus T
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2 W 1 L
.946 vs Dallas
.944 vs Vegas
.947 vs Pittsburgh
#notbad
2 W 1 L
.946 vs Dallas
.944 vs Vegas
.947 vs Pittsburgh
#notbad
HuGort
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I told these fellows on here he was good goalie. His numbers were inflated because he played behind rookie defense. They wouldn't listen. Just kept ranting on about his bad numbers.
Captain97
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It was originally reported as both years, but was corrected to just be next year
Captain Mountain
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His stats aren't/weren't even that bad when taking into account his situation/usage. People just tend to not look beyond save percentage. He's a decent 1B goalie that can be a 1A for stretches, but not permanently. Its what he's been his entire career.
I imagine this was a trade the Devils tried to make earlier, but Montreal didn't really pick a real goalie direction until they re-signed Montembault in December and because Allen wouldn't waive his NTC before.
Nico Cauzuki
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Good to hear hopefully he keeps it up so it becomes a win win for everyone
ZachaFlockaFlame
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I doubt he meets the condition next year for the 2nd. If he does, the Devils starter that they traded for in the summer either got hurt or is playing bad which I mean I doubt Habs fans would care for the second situation but still lol
your opinion is mostly right, except that they turned their PK around and Suzuki is now hailed as the reason. It's too recent a change to say it's the new norm, but Marc Denis had an in-game segment about it yesterday.
Don't know if its just because he is a vet and sure of himself but he's probably has the best movement out of all the goalies the Devils tried this year. He really goes out and challenges every shooter instead of just reacting to the shot.
Maybe him playing for the Habs makes him fit better with the Devils? He probably is used to having the puck turned over in his own zone dozens of times a game.
Maybe him playing for the Habs makes him fit better with the Devils? He probably is used to having the puck turned over in his own zone dozens of times a game.
He's looked fantastic. And frankly the devils D in the games with Allen have been the worst they've been all year with no hamilton, miller, siegs, or marinoDon't know if its just because he is a vet and sure of himself but he's probably has the best movement out of all the goalies the Devils tried this year. He really goes out and challenges every shooter instead of just reacting to the shot.
Maybe him playing for the Habs makes him fit better with the Devils? He probably is used to having the puck turned over in his own zone dozens of times a game.
About as good as you could hope for a backup right now.
Well, backup on a good team (hopefully next year).
Well, backup on a good team (hopefully next year).
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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Oh f*** he's use to 5 on 5 play and having 2 players not covered.Don't know if its just because he is a vet and sure of himself but he's probably has the best movement out of all the goalies the Devils tried this year. He really goes out and challenges every shooter instead of just reacting to the shot.
Maybe him playing for the Habs makes him fit better with the Devils? He probably is used to having the puck turned over in his own zone dozens of times a game.
They play man-to-man AND positional, so it just gets all f***ed up at times.
The other goalies are young, or suck, or both. Allen has played for a while and knows the majority of shooter's tendencies, so that's likely what makes him confident.
He is a tremendous backup and can play more games than your typical backup can and be effective.
If the Devils get Markstrom, he doesn't need to play 60+, he could play 50 (or 42 and let Allen play 40) and be well rested for the playoffs.
Tim Wallach
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We're starting to see a trend of fanbases yelling and screaming that they don't want some washed up Habs player and then being extremely happy with him once they get him. Most recent was Monahan.
Just saying that perhaps the chronic undervaluing of Habs players on here is being exposed.
Just saying that perhaps the chronic undervaluing of Habs players on here is being exposed.
Given that Kahkonen hasn't shown much yet I'm assuming that Allen is going to be ridden until he wishes he was back to being the Habs 3rd string goalie.
PocketNines
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Holy mother of god at the bolded.
The purpose of Jake Allen entering this world through a birth canal was so that pressure would have a human to choke under it.
The closest he could come to personally earning a Stanley Cup would be by outracing a woman for one at Target
Kahkonen had an excellent 1st game. 13 games left. Give Allen 8, KK 5.Given that Kahkonen hasn't shown much yet I'm assuming that Allen is going to be ridden until he wishes he was back to being the Habs 3rd string goalie.
