Value of: NJ and PHI - What would you trade for Gaudreau?

[DualThreat23]

Theres a reason for that.

You want one of the best wingers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime...I think its perfectly reasonable to ask for Couturier in the deal.

 

[Dr Quincy]

You want one of the best wingers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime...I think its perfectly reasonable to ask for Couturier in the deal.

Except this thread started with a CGY fan asking PHI and NJ fans what they'd offer, not asking CGY fans what they'd want.

Those are different questions with different answers.

 

[Dooble08]

You want one of the best wingers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime...I think its perfectly reasonable to ask for Couturier in the deal.

It doesn't make any sense for the Flyers to include Couturier in a trade for Gaudreau. Even the addition of Johnny Hockey severely weakens the Flyers in terms of faceoffs, center depth, and penalty kill.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

You want one of the best wingers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime...I think its perfectly reasonable to ask for Couturier in the deal.

Yes.

Because you'd be asking for one of the best centers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime.

Does not compute for us.

 

[mercury]

What about 11OA, Myers, and Voracek?

That's actually worse than before.

 

[mercury]

Not one person has mentioned Couturier...if Calgary really explored a Gaudreau trade with the Flyers, I wouldn't do the deal without Couturier included in the deal.

Included? I wouldn't trade Couturier straight up for Gaudreau.

 

[captainpaxil]

That's actually worse than before.

Because a deal centered on voracek which os almost the way it would have to go renders anything of significant value overpayment. Voracek 2020 1st is the value id be comfortable with

 

[PALE PWNR]

Voracek + 2020 1st + 1 of Strome, Vorobyev or Bunnaman

 

[PALE PWNR]

Couturier is a complete non-starter for me, think he has more value than Gaudreau tbh

 

[Starat327]

You want one of the best wingers in the league with multiple years left on a very friendly AAV who is in his prime...I think its perfectly reasonable to ask for Couturier in the deal.

I don't want Gaudreau. Not at the price Calgary fans would ask at, anyway.

Flyers have oodles of depth on wing and nothing at center beyond Couturier. Couturier is a non starter for any trade where we don't get a better center in return, value be damned.

 

[Flukeshot]

Monahan makes a bit more sense for the Flyers but I don't see a trade that makes the Flames better next year that I would want to do. I'd love to give up future assets for either Flame but I doubt that's what the flames want.

 

[mercury]

Monahan makes a bit more sense for the Flyers but I don't see a trade that makes the Flames better next year that I would want to do. I'd love to give up future assets for either Flame but I doubt that's what the flames want.

I agree. Monahan would be a stellar addition, but I don't see a deal that makes sense here.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Only on HF Boards is there is hemming and hawing over the value of one of the best players in the game. Either team would give up a ransom-period.

 

[mercury]

Only on HF Boards is there is hemming and hawing over the value of one of the best players in the game. Either team would give up a ransom-period.

The issue is considering what a "ransom" entails. The Flames are not getting Couturier+. This isn't "hemming and hawing." It's disagreement.

 

[goonybird]

We would also like McDavid but NJ isn't giving up Hall, Hughes, and Hischier to do it. (does that even move the needle? lol)

 

[FameFlame069]

Yes let's trade a superstar and a young 1C just cause we're having bad luck in the playoffs, look at Tampa, you think they're looking to trade Kuchy or Stamkos/Point?

 

[Starat327]

Only on HF Boards is there is hemming and hawing over the value of one of the best players in the game. Either team would give up a ransom-period.

Only on HF boards is there this notion that you can build an entire team of superstars, with no ramifications about what position they actually play.

 

[Tripod]

It just needs to be said again. They Flyers have:

Giroux: 61 ES pts....T4th for LW
JVR: 35 ES points....in 66 games....T26th for LW
Lindblom 30 ES points...T39th for LW....AND WAS A ROOKIE THIS YEAR

...as their LWers.

From just a sheer need.....the Flyers don't need a LW at all. They also have Farabee and Ratcliffe on the way. So they have the JVR replacement in house. The only LW I go after, is Panarin and then slide Lindblom to RW. I 100% don't go after one in trade where I have to gut my team. It just makes no sense.

Can people actually see this reasoning?

 

[Starat327]

It just needs to be said again. They Flyers have:

Giroux: 61 ES pts....T4th for LW
JVR: 35 ES points....in 66 games....T26th for LW
Lindblom 30 ES points...T39th for LW....AND WAS A ROOKIE THIS YEAR

...as their LWers.

From just a sheer need.....the Flyers don't need a LW at all. They also have Farabee and Ratcliffe on the way. So they have the JVR replacement in house. The only LW I go after, is Panarin and then slide Lindblom to RW. I 100% don't go after one in trade where I have to gut my team. It just makes no sense.

Can people actually see this reasoning?

Silly Tripod. All that matters is if you win the trade. Winning the trade > winning games.

 

[Haatley]

Flames win West after not making playoffs...
Gaudreau is offensive leader having the best year since Theo Fleury (point totals)...

And we gon trade him if the Flames don't advance?

 

[Devonator]

If you want a fresh reminder why I do not want to give up much for little Johnny look no further in his non existence in these playoffs....nope...the little dude is fine in the RS but useless when things heat up....sorry...we will wait until he is a free agent...

 

[bauer]

Pass for Philly. LW is our deepest position. It just wouldn’t be worth what it would cost.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Yes let's trade a superstar and a young 1C just cause we're having bad luck in the playoffs, look at Tampa, you think they're looking to trade Kuchy or Stamkos/Point?

Ha, bad luck?

 

[FameFlame069]

Ha, bad luck?

You really think the Avs are more skilled? Better all around game? The only thing they are better at us clearly is goaltending which is being shown, I still don't see why Rittich hasn't gotten his chance, we lost this series due to bad luck.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

You really think the Avs are more skilled? Better all around game? The only thing they are better at us clearly is goaltending which is being shown, I still don't see why Rittich hasn't gotten his chance, we lost this series due to bad luck.

With an analysis like that I’d say you haven’t watched a minute of this series.

Like, the consensus by everyone is that Smith is the only positive for Calgary.