Nintendo Switch #5

When I think luxury I think extravagant, expensive, and inaccessible tbh. Gaming isn't really any of those things. When I think about a new generation of console coming out, the way I see it is you pay $400-$500 up front and get 4 to 6 years of entertainment out of that purchase. Sure there are games and other things on top of that but the general price of the hobby is not bad when you look at the life you get out of the console.
Doing some quick math in my head and between what I spend on a games a year and how much I roughly play per year, my ratio comes to maybe 50 cents an hour. That doesn't seem extravagant to me. Gaming can be, especially PC, if you need to upgrade your hardware and monitor more often (and more expensively than just a console)
 
Unless you have a verifiable and trusted source or you can prove that you are an industry insider then i am not buying anything you say to justify these prices.
So you really think an OLED screen wouldn't have made the product more expensive? The only reason Nintendo didn't go with an OLED is to piss of their customers.

Yeah the Vita had an OLED screen, it was much smaller and the Vita bombed in spectacular fashion. Hardly a good comparable I'd say.
 
Apparently the third party camera that looks like a Piranha Plant films at 480p...who is still making 480p lenses? Did Hori accidentally buy millions of them twenty years ago?
 
Unless you have a verifiable and trusted source or you can prove that you are an industry insider then i am not buying anything you say to justify these prices.
NS1 released in 2017 for $300 USD. What on earth has gotten cheaper these last seven years?

You all may as well be whining about people’s bad driving for as pointless these pricing complaints are. Prices increase over time and we have a madman ruining the global economy.

Save up for an extra week or two and fork over the extra $150 JFC. Or don’t buy it. Play your current system until you can afford it. We’re not entitled to consumer entertainment products being dirt cheap.
 
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I don't have any issue with the pricing of the console itself - I expected to pay around $600 Canadian.

I do think the games prices are a little steep considering the physical copies are just a download code. The consumer doesn't even own the physical game anymore and that makes me sad.

I also think it opens the flood gates for other games to start increasing their asking price. I trust Nintendo to make fun games that will be worth the cost, I can't say the same about many other studios.
 
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I don't have any issue with the pricing of the console itself - I expected to pay around $600 Canadian.

I do think the games prices are a little steep considering the physical copies are just a download code. The consumer doesn't even own the physical game anymore and that makes me sad.

I also think it opens the flood gates for other games to start increasing their asking price. I trust Nintendo to make fun games that will be worth the cost, I can't say the same about many other studios.
It was the next logical step for Nintendo considering that they scrapped Nintendo Selects/Player's Choice and they had their most successful generation. Games like Mario or Zelda would be discounted after being best-sellers but that's no longer the case. They will keep increasing prices as long as they can get away with it.
 
I don't want to pay more but I get it. Inflation during COVID was out of control.

Here's what $60 adjusts to from the start of the Switch in 2017 to today. It's about $80

$60 in 2017 → 2025 | Inflation Calculator

I'm Canadian and there's a similar jump.

The console price seems okay to me too for similar reasons. People are saying this is Nintendo's PS3 moment but that console was almost $1000 adjusted to now. Plus the Switch 2 is a bigger, more ambitious device in terms of processing compared to the Switch, even for the time

Also, most of the other moves around the console are meant to benefit the consumer. Nintendo never let you transfer your downloads before. Now you can. Nintendo sold HD updates as separate games for full price. Now you pay for an upgrade pack for $10.

Honestly for me, I might skip the Switch 2, for a while. My wage didn't catch up to inflation. I just don't blame Nintendo for this mess in the economy
 
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I don't want to pay more but I get it. Inflation during COVID was out of control.

Here's what $60 adjusts to from the start of the Switch in 2017 to today. It's about $80

$60 in 2017 → 2025 | Inflation Calculator

I'm Canadian and there's a similar jump.

The console price seems okay to me too for similar reasons. People are saying this is Nintendo's PS3 moment but that console was almost $1000 adjusted to now. Plus the Switch 2 is a bigger, more ambitious device in terms of processing compared to the Switch, even for the time

Also, most of the other moves around the console are meant to benefit the consumer. Nintendo never let you transfer your downloads before. Now you can. Nintendo sold HD updates as separate games for full price. Now you pay for an upgrade pack for $10.

Honestly for me, I might skip the Switch 2, for a while. My wage didn't catch up to inflation. I just don't blame Nintendo for this mess in the economy
The complaining is typical of gamers on the internet. Are they not looking around and seeing what's going on in the world right now? (probably not)
 
Nintendo Switch 2 preorders begin April 24 in the US. No price increase. Like i expected. Remember that guy posting articles suggesting it could go $100-200 higher lmao.
 
I vividly remembering buying Mario Kart 64 for $60 way back then.

Lots of games were in the $65-75 range, too. DK64 cost $80...or a full year's worth of allowance for me, which is a huge reason why that's my most hated game ever :thumbd:

It stinks, but I get it. Nintendo just needs to actually reduce the price on their own games at some point again. $80 for a new game I can stomach. $80 for a years old game? No. I wasn't doing that at $60 and I surely won't be doing it at $80. I mean beyond just making it 30% off for one week in the eShop. Mario Kart 64 was $60 at release and $40 within a couple years under the Players Choice banner. Not for a week, that was the new MSRP. Nintendo ditched the concept with the Switch and it still pisses me off.

I don’t know how it is for kids now but I was born in 89 and a kid having a N64 was big deal. Only one of my friends had one and he only had a few games and two controllers.

Yeah. I was the one kid in my friend group with a N64. That said, I kinda hated it and wanted a PlayStation instead because games were too expensive for my library to ever grow beyond a handful of games....most of which were bargain bin shit because new games were so expensive that I got maybe one full price game for Christmas the entire time I owned the system. I'd venture to say that more than 90% of the N64 games I played were 99 cent rentals from the local Giant Eagle.

Now that I think about it...I didn't even get a game with the console! :laugh: For the better part of a year I didn't own any games for the N64. We probably rented GoldenEye a dozen times, though.
 
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Lots of games were in the $65-75 range, too. DK64 cost $80...or a full year's worth of allowance for me, which is a huge reason why that's my most hated game ever :thumbd:

It stinks, but I get it. Nintendo just needs to actually reduce the price on their own games at some point again. $80 for a new game I can stomach. $80 for a years old game? No. I wasn't doing that at $60 and I surely won't be doing it at $80. I mean beyond just making it 30% off for one week in the eShop. Mario Kart 64 was $60 at release and $40 within a couple years under the Players Choice banner. Not for a week, that was the new MSRP. Nintendo ditched the concept with the Switch and it still pisses me off.



Yeah. I was the one kid in my friend group with a N64. That said, I kinda hated it and wanted a PlayStation instead because games were too expensive for my library to ever grow beyond a handful of games....most of which were bargain bin shit because new games were so expensive that I got maybe one full price game for Christmas the entire time I owned the system. I'd venture to say that more than 90% of the N64 games I played were 99 cent rentals from the local Giant Eagle.

Now that I think about it...I didn't even get a game with the console! :laugh: For the better part of a year I didn't own any games for the N64. We probably rented GoldenEye a dozen times, though.
There's a real interesting social phenomenon regarding that generation of gaming consoles where by all measurements the PS1 vastly outsold the N64, but because of the target demos, first-party IP, and third-party licensing differences between Sony and Nintendo, the N64 is much more didn't remembered as a nostalgic common reference point for millennials. If you had an N64, you owned or repeatedly rented Mario 64, Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, WCW/nWo Revenge, etc. By contrast, PlayStation had a lot of cheap shovelware and its heavy hitters were more genre-specific like FF7 or Gran Turismo. So while a lot more people owned PS1 than N64, like 80% of N64 households experienced the same games with the majority of their console use where the biggest PS1 games were owned by maybe 30% of users at most.

There was never a Sony Mario nor Sonic, as much as they tried to push Crash Bandicoot, it didn't stick.
 
There's a real interesting social phenomenon regarding that generation of gaming consoles where by all measurements the PS1 vastly outsold the N64, but because of the target demos, first-party IP, and third-party licensing differences between Sony and Nintendo, the N64 is much more didn't remembered as a nostalgic common reference point for millennials. If you had an N64, you owned or repeatedly rented Mario 64, Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, WCW/nWo Revenge, etc. By contrast, PlayStation had a lot of cheap shovelware and its heavy hitters were more genre-specific like FF7 or Gran Turismo. So while a lot more people owned PS1 than N64, like 80% of N64 households experienced the same games with the majority of their console use where the biggest PS1 games were owned by maybe 30% of users at most.

There was never a Sony Mario nor Sonic, as much as they tried to push Crash Bandicoot, it didn't stick.

Meh. It's overstated. Like I said I was the only one in my social circle with an N64 and I hated the damn thing. Good games were too few and way too far between. Most N64 games I played wouldn't score above a 4/10. The N64 had about ten great games, 30 good games, 50 solid to okay games, and 200 of the shittiest games ever made that nobody remembers.

I was much more of a Nintendo kid going into the N64 era and wound up skipping the GameCube and Wii because of it. It was the handhelds that kept Nintendo relevant to me. To that point I constantly forget that the Switch can be played on TV because I don't think I've done so in 7 years. It's purely a handheld system for me, as will the Switch 2.

There didn't need to be a Mario or Sonic when the PlayStation had entire genres the N64 ignored or was excrutiangly bad at.
 
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There's a real interesting social phenomenon regarding that generation of gaming consoles where by all measurements the PS1 vastly outsold the N64, but because of the target demos, first-party IP, and third-party licensing differences between Sony and Nintendo, the N64 is much more didn't remembered as a nostalgic common reference point for millennials. If you had an N64, you owned or repeatedly rented Mario 64, Goldeneye, Ocarina of Time, WCW/nWo Revenge, etc. By contrast, PlayStation had a lot of cheap shovelware and its heavy hitters were more genre-specific like FF7 or Gran Turismo. So while a lot more people owned PS1 than N64, like 80% of N64 households experienced the same games with the majority of their console use where the biggest PS1 games were owned by maybe 30% of users at most.

There was never a Sony Mario nor Sonic, as much as they tried to push Crash Bandicoot, it didn't stick.
The N64 mostly excelled at couch multiplayer games. Mario Kart, the Mario Party games, Super Smash Bros., Diddy Kong Racing, the wrestling games, Golden Eye... The console was mostly held up by Nintendo exclusives as third party support was poor and that explains why the console has one of the smallest libraries.

The N64 missed on the 3D revolution of companies pushing new boundaries. So no Squaresoft/Enix games when they were at the height of their creative powers, no Capcom with Resident Evil (except the second game) and no Konami with Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill. There are many more series that were started or revolutionized on the PSX that don't exist on the N64 and it simply covered a lot more genres.
 
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Nintendo Switch 2 preorders begin April 24 in the US. No price increase. Like i expected. Remember that guy posting articles suggesting it could go $100-200 higher lmao.
HFBoards poster finds out constantly flipping tariff policy might affect prices or not. Things change.

Meanwhile in Finland, Switch 2 prices are predictably ridiculous.


European price announced at 469 euros but huge fluctuation in Europe. In France advance sale price is 439 euros. In Finland, the lowest retail price is 557,90 euros but more commonly it's between 569 - 589 euros. The price in all the Nordic countries where the importer is the same, is equally high, with Sweden having the highest price at 610 euros.

For comparison, the cheapest price for Series X is 549 euros and PS5 Digital Slim at 490 euros.
 
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The N64 mostly excelled at couch multiplayer games. Mario Kart, the Mario Party games, Super Smash Bros., Diddy Kong Racing, the wrestling games, Golden Eye... The console was mostly held up by Nintendo exclusives as third party support was poor and that explains why the console has one of the smallest libraries.

The N64 missed on the 3D revolution of companies pushing new boundaries. So no Squaresoft/Enix games when they were at the height of their creative powers, no Capcom with Resident Evil (except the second game) and no Konami with Metal Gear Solid and Silent Hill. There are many more series that were started or revolutionized on the PSX that don't exist on the N64 and it simply covered a lot more genres.
Multiplayer couch games is it's legacy for sure. N64 came out late in elementary school for me (not sure the exact school year). I also found it had a huge resurgence when I got to college, Mario Cart 64 & Mario Party were major in the dorms my freshman and sophomore year. No one broke out their old PS1s or anything like that.
 

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