Z is just such an incredibly rare breed. It's unfortunate seeing so many taking him for granted
That much is true, I guess we will see how he responds. It's interesting to read that Bednar didn't speak at all to Z following the benching or before he was healthy scratched.
I dont like that. Jared should talk to Z. At the same time Z needs to play for his teammates when he gets back in and not worry about his coach.
I dont like that. Jared should talk to Z. At the same time Z needs to play for his teammates when he gets back in and not worry about his coach.
It's hard to really evaluate how JB is handling Zadorov. For pretty much everybody on the team they've taken strides under his coaching, including Z himself. The benching is frustrating, but let's hope it lights a spark under him like last time.
This is the thing. People can complain about the way Bednar has operated but the results are speaking for themselves. Everyone on the team essentially have become better players since Bednar took over. Mack, and Rants are legit superstars. Girard has emerged as a young stud, a 20 year old Top pairing Defender. Soderberg's 2-way game has evolved a ridiculous amount while the offense continues to work despite the usage he's getting.
And even Zadorov himself despite getting the tough love treatment that others aren't necessarily getting. He's no doubt a better player now then he was 2 years ago. His issue is with consistently being that better player and that's what Bednar is trying to get out of him.
He didn't talk to him on the off day before he scratched him either? Even with all the trade rumors flying around. No wonder he feels disrespected. Fortunately the last two players Bednar made feel disrespected were on their last legs in McLeod and Iginla.
Zadorov is a very important part of the Avs blueline future though after a decade of crap. Can we quit playing games here? There's 30 teams salivating at the idea of the Avs screwing up their relationship with a big mobile punishing defenseman like Z.
Yup. Basically the way I see it is Zadorov is a very prideful guy who's confident in himself, and the best way to get better is to play. Whereas for Bednar he's trying to filter out the bad habits of Z, and the best way to get through to him is to give a bit of tough love. Like a father who disciplines his son, and at the time the son is pissed but then a few years later he appreciates what he did.
To be fair he does it with everyone, he doesn't talk to the player until a few days later and gets back to them.
That approach only works for so long though. When you give such a shorter leash to a player than anyone else on the team, you run the risk of making them feel like they can't do anything right. Then their game really starts to fall apart. It's happened countless times over the years.
Hopefully we're still at the point where Z can use this to motivate himself, rather than be confused over what he needs to do to get out of the dog house. Talking usually helps, which is why I don't see the point of Bednar not speaking to him. He's playing a risky game here and I'm not sure it's needed.
Yeah, because it's not the time for this kind of hockey yet. Especially but not only with the refs calling the game the way they have been this season.Zadorov hasn't been as good as he was during last season. He has regressed a little bit. Nemeth and Barberio have peaked or are at close to their peaks whereas Zadorov still has much more potential to realize. That's why those guys should be treated differently. Big Z has been quite soft this season and hasn't laid lot of big licks (thanks Moser).
Waiting to talk to them is not a bad idea because the player probably needs a bit of time to cool off. Trying to talk to an angry person can make things a lot worst very often. However the talk should happen relatively early after the benching/scratching to give the player time to understand and work on what is needed to correct the problem. So I agree with you up to a point.I like Jared Bednar a lot, but I think his approach of not talking to his players for several days after benching or scratching is one of the dumbest coaching tactics I’ve ever heard of.
If I’m a hockey player and I’m scratched without reason I’m going to spend the night eating nachos with my mind racing. I’m going to be pissed and I’m not going to be focused on the game at all.
If I’m a hockey player and I’m scratched because of a specific part of my game I’ll be spending the game zoned in. Taking mental
notes of specific plays out there and using my birds eye view to better myself for the next time I’m in those situations.
Makes a lot more sense to explain to a young player what he’s doing wrong rather than letting it destroy his head for a few days. Anxiety is real. Don’t make it worse with an idiotic approach to coaching.
I like Jared Bednar a lot, but I think his approach of not talking to his players for several days after benching or scratching is one of the dumbest coaching tactics I’ve ever heard of.
If I’m a hockey player and I’m scratched without reason I’m going to spend the night eating nachos with my mind racing. I’m going to be pissed and I’m not going to be focused on the game at all.
If I’m a hockey player and I’m scratched because of a specific part of my game I’ll be spending the game zoned in. Taking mental
notes of specific plays out there and using my birds eye view to better myself for the next time I’m in those situations.
Makes a lot more sense to explain to a young player what he’s doing wrong rather than letting it destroy his head for a few days. Anxiety is real. Don’t make it worse with an idiotic approach to coaching.
I think it is very easy to say Z has talent and point to 5-10 even 15 game stretches of great play to show how awesome he can be. The sobering reality there is he has valleys that are very low. Consistency has always been Z's biggest issue (IMO it boils down to IQ and engagement), and remains his biggest issue at the age of 23 with 241 NHL games and 52 AHL games under his belt. I'm not saying the final evaluation moment is right now, but the combination of his age, experience, contract, and arbitration means the horizon is approaching. Z's issues have to start getting ironed out soon, or a decision will be made.
Z’s hockey IQ is average at best. I’m not trying to rip the kid, but the moments of not moving his feet, bad positioning, very poorly timed penalties are all symptomatic of lower hockey IQ. Z is very physically talented and plays a desirable physical game with a very likable personality... he is a classic all tools, no toolbox player though. Sometimes the talent wins out and with experience they become solid defensemen (EJ is an example), but let’s not cover up an obvious flaw in his game.
I would say he is best when the reigns are taken off, but given the makeup of the team, he can't be put in a role like that, unless he plays 3rd pairing this season away from Ty and Girard.Based on last night Zadorov is quite clearly at his best when he does whatever he wants, so this is the approach that should be adopted going forward.
I would say he is best when the reigns are taken off, but given the makeup of the team, he can't be put in a role like that, unless he plays 3rd pairing this season away from Ty and Girard.