Proposal: Nikita Tryamkin (Proposal)

zcaptain

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You guys are going to love this one!

But please consider it!

Tryamkin is a 6'7" , 265 lb LHD, who plays the RH side. Tryamkin is currently in the KHL, and signed to a KHL contract. Vancouver holds his rights until August 30, 2022

I do not know if he has an out clause in the contract. But it is clear that he has absolutely no wish to sign with Vancouver.

My proposal is a conditional trade, as follows............

If Tryamkin's rights are traded, and he has a opt out clause and he uses it and signs with the trading team, then the trading team will give the Canucks a 3rd round pick. If he make the NHL squad, then the 3rd turns into a second.

To review...........to trading team (no costs unless)

1. trade......................future considerations
2. If he signs, then a 3rd round pick
3. If he make the NHL club, then the 3rd turns into a 2nd


Targeted Teams.........(Teams with famous Russians)


Tampa................Kucherov, Sergachev, Vasilevskiy

Washington........Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Orlov, Samsonov

IMO, both teams would love Tryamkin, if he makes the team, as he would have a cheap contract, and
IMO, if he was ever to come to the NHL, it would be for one of these 2 teams.



Hey, you can't blame a guy for trying............and it is a shame he is not playing here somewhere.


And, I know it iis a long, long, long Pie in the sky shot, but Ive been drinking Tequila all day, so don't blame me................it was the worms fault!
 

AHLdepth

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Look if anyone's interested a conditional 7th would be fine. It's obvious that he came over, acted a Prima Dona, wasn't as good as he thought he'd be in the NHL, used our team as leverage for his current contract, and has little to no desire to actually play in the NHL.

If he ever put it together over here, he would still be a weird hybrid if players we already have, so yeah.....opening bid is conditional 7th for me
 

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To review...........to trading team (no costs unless)

1. trade......................future considerations
2. If he signs, then a 3rd round pick
3. If he make the NHL club, then the 3rd turns into a 2nd

So to recap for option 2, if he signs but doesnt make the NHL club, you are suggesting that an AHL defensemen's value is a 3rd round pick... yea I think your asset value may be a tad off
 
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Canucks get jfa for his rights. Might come back to the NHL but have to pay him like a 4-5 to come over when he’s a 6-7 and good cap teams like Tampa don’t do that.
 

Qwijibo

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Not sure why some people can’t just let it go. He had one mediocre half season in Vancouver but because he was big and occasionally threw a big check some fans think the Canucks lost the second coming of Chara
 

zcaptain

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Again in my scenario

if he does not sign to the teams liking.............no cost

if he signs for 1 million and does not make the big club, then a 3rd

if he makes it onto the nhl club it goes to a 2nd
 

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Look if anyone's interested a conditional 7th would be fine. It's obvious that he came over, acted a Prima Dona, wasn't as good as he thought he'd be in the NHL, used our team as leverage for his current contract, and has little to no desire to actually play in the NHL.

If he ever put it together over here, he would still be a weird hybrid if players we already have, so yeah.....opening bid is conditional 7th for me

That is genuinely so not obvious at all. Did he act like a Prima Donna or did he just not enjoy playing a small role on a different continent, away from friends and family for 8 months a year? Could he not get over the language barrier? Did he get more money in Russia? Was there tension with Desjardins?
It’s almost the exact opposite of an obvious situation. What’s the point of even claiming those things that could be completely wrong when nobody on this board could possibly know even 10% of the full story? Of course you can believe that or think it’s most likely, but we literally have no clue lol.

Not sure why some people can’t just let it go. He had one mediocre half season in Vancouver but because he was big and occasionally threw a big check some fans think the Canucks lost the second coming of Chara

Ya, why would a poor defensive team want a 6’7 two way dman as a low-cost, medium upside target. Oh wait, because literally every team should take a flyer on a guy like this. I don’t get coming into this thread and posting this at all, like OP is clearly looking at low-cast, outside-the-box targets that could pay off. Fair if you argue he’s not a good player, but saying you don’t know why people can’t get over it is kinda ridiculous when teams are desperate for his EXACT skill set. Why not consider it on a hockey message board...
And I can think of at least 20 teams that could use even a mediocre depth dman with size, decent speed and decent IQ. Having said that a 2nd (even conditional) would be way too much for how unproven he is, but a later pick or meh prospect or something would make total sense for a lot of teams.
 
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That is genuinely so not obvious at all. Did he act like a Prima Donna or did he just not enjoy playing a small role on a different continent, away from friends and family for 8 months a year? Could he not get over the language barrier? Did he get more money in Russia? Was there tension with Desjardins?
It’s almost the exact opposite of an obvious situation. What’s the point of even claiming those things that could be completely wrong when nobody on this board could possibly know even 10% of the full story? Of course you can believe that or think it’s most likely, but we literally have no clue lol.



Ya, why would a poor defensive team want a 6’7 two way dman as a low-cost, medium upside target. Oh wait, because literally every team should take a flyer on a guy like this. I don’t get coming into this thread and posting this at all, like OP is clearly looking at low-cast, outside-the-box targets that could pay off. Fair if you argue he’s not a good player, but saying you don’t know why people can’t get over it is kinda ridiculous when teams are desperate for his EXACT skill set. Why not consider it on a hockey message board...
And I can think of at least 20 teams that could use even a mediocre depth dman with size, decent speed and decent IQ. Having said that a 2nd (even conditional) would be way too much for how unproven he is, but a later pick or meh prospect or something would make total sense for a lot of teams.
My point is. He left. He signed in the KHL because he and his wife were r happy in Vancouver. And when his contract was up and he had the opportunity to return to the NHL he signed another contract that won’t expire until a full year after Vancouver’s NHL. rights to him have expired. His time in Vancouver is done and any value he may have had to the franchise is gone.

The op is trying to get value out of an asset that has zero value in the current situation. So , like I said, people need to quit beating a long dead horse and move on.
 
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AHLdepth

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That is genuinely so not obvious at all. Did he act like a Prima Donna or did he just not enjoy playing a small role on a different continent, away from friends and family for 8 months a year? Could he not get over the language barrier? Did he get more money in Russia? Was there tension with Desjardins?
It’s almost the exact opposite of an obvious situation. What’s the point of even claiming those things that could be completely wrong when nobody on this board could possibly know even 10% of the full story? Of course you can believe that or think it’s most likely, but we literally have no clue lol.

Is it possible there was tension? Sure. Is it possible there was a language barrier? Sure. Is it possible there was some level of culture shock? Sure. But those are things that you overcome if your passion is to play at the highest level, lots of players have overcome the same things.

Some of the facts we can point to however? Refusing an AHL assignment, showing up to training camp out of shape, bolting for the KHL as fast as possible.

I'm not saying he wouldn't be a worthwhile flyer for a team, I'm just saying that it's a flyer that should be taken with a colossal grain of salt.
 
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zcaptain

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My point is. He left. He signed in the KHL because he and his wife were r happy in Vancouver. And when his contract was up and he had the opportunity to return to the NHL he signed another contract that won’t expire until a full year after Vancouver’s NHL. rights to him have expired. His time in Vancouver is done and any value he may have had to the franchise is gone.

The op is trying to get value out of an asset that has zero value in the current situation. So , like I said, people need to quit beating a long dead horse and move on.

What I am selling is the opportunity to talk to him first. If he in fact would come back, there is no cost the way, I structured the deal, and his cost comes from being a unique type of player, playing a desired position.

Example.........Capitals need ELC type contracts, Tryamkin plays RHD or LHD and comes in and plays 3rd pairing at 1.3 Million. That is a small hit it he sticks.............to me that is a win for the Capitals, and no cost to explore the possibility, well before anyone else has the right to talk to him.

If the idea fails, there is very little cost to the Capitals
 

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What I am selling is the opportunity to talk to him first. If he in fact would come back, there is no cost the way, I structured the deal, and his cost comes from being a unique type of player, playing a desired position.

Example.........Capitals need ELC type contracts, Tryamkin plays RHD or LHD and comes in and plays 3rd pairing at 1.3 Million. That is a small hit it he sticks.............to me that is a win for the Capitals, and no cost to explore the possibility, well before anyone else has the right to talk to him.

If the idea fails, there is very little cost to the Capitals
If Tryamkin had any interest in returning to the NHL he would have done it when his last contract expired. For him to do it now he’s have to buy out his own contract. It’s not reasonable to expect he will do thst. Especially when he doesn’t know his ultimate destination

but let’s pretend for a moment he’s be willing to buy out his own contract. He hasn’t played in league in what? 5 years? And he’s played something like 80 nhl games? No team is paying a 2nd for him.
 

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