He's doing well in Laval -- any reason he couldn't remain there at this point?McCarron will be next.
He's doing well in Laval -- any reason he couldn't remain there at this point?McCarron will be next.
They must be sure that he will not make it.
He's doing well in Laval -- any reason he couldn't remain there at this point?
McCarron will be next.
Doesn't matter. None of those players are unique in any regard, and if you lose one of them, you can probably find another half dozen in Laval, or you can pick up a similar guy for literally scraps.Whose position in the top 9 should he have taken?
Doesn't matter. None of those players are unique in any regard, and if you lose one of them, you can probably find another half dozen in Laval, or you can pick up a similar guy for literally scraps.
Agreed. We should of waived the other 4th line depth and gave Scherbak a few games.
But wait, this is a pride/rebound year man. Habs don't have time to let prospects learn on the job with our middle of the pack strategy where we want to make the playoffs where "anything can happen"
They were right with Beaulieu & Ghetto to some degree. Lets see if they are with DLR and Scherbak. Very disappointing that these kids struggled to reach their ceiling while with the Habs.
We'll see how he does in LA - I like this move by Bergevin. He's learning to let guys who don't hack it go. Scherbak looked better last year for stretches, but he certainly didn't make the team out of camp this year. If he doesn't learn to consistently play a 200 foot game I think he will always be of limited use.
We'll see how he does in LA - I like this move by Bergevin. He's learning to let guys who don't hack it go. Scherbak looked better last year for stretches, but he certainly didn't make the team out of camp this year. If he doesn't learn to consistently play a 200 foot game I think he will always be of limited use.
I would have liked this move better at the draft table, with Bergevin, who is supposedly so well-versed in scouting and his minions, agreeing at that time, that the player has too many flaws or doesn't possess the minimum attributes the Habs are looking for. There were certainly signs early on what this player is about. He didn't like to train, he never played a 200 foot game. What is of limited use is whoever recommended the player to begin with.
They didn't like anyone else in that draft range? Then, pay to move up or trade the pick for an asset or another draft year but don't settle for a too heavily flawed player.
Up to the Habs to do their homework and tighten up their interview and evaluative process -- they need to learn from this. You can't go on squandering first round picks, even those in the third tier of the first round -- there is still a high enough ratio at that point, for the player to make it to the NHL.
Or maybe, there is nothing to learn. Maybe some of the scouting staff needs to be audited and replaced.
There is absolutely nothing to like from this move. A first round asset was lost for nothing. This is not a viable strategy for any club.
The management and scouting continue to learn but they will never be perfect. This is a good move in an imperfect world.
It's a heavily-flawed world that keeps burning out opportunities to acquire assets that have the best chance of succeeding. You are supposed to have the least margin of error with your first round pick, the stats bear it out. The Habs have missed the mark far too many times. Not to mention a second rounder like JDLR, another young player lost for nothing. It's unacceptable.
It's a heavily-flawed world that keeps burning out opportunities to acquire assets that have the best chance of succeeding. You are supposed to have the least margin of error with your first round pick, the stats bear it out. The Habs have missed the mark far too many times. Not to mention a second rounder like JDLR, another young player lost for nothing. It's unacceptable.
I think DLR will be a fringe NHLer for a while. Scherbak I'm less confident in his ability to remain in a team's lineup.
I disagree. Prospects disappoint all the time. It's not ideal but it's reality. Juulsen looks good. I feel the Habs future is looking brighter. Too bad about Scherbak, but now he's gone. Time to look to the future.
The problem is not losing these players (DLR and Scherbak) is to have drafted them in the first place.
I would have liked this move better at the draft table, with Bergevin, who is supposedly so well-versed in scouting and his minions, agreeing at that time, that the player has too many flaws or doesn't possess the minimum attributes the Habs are looking for. There were certainly signs early on what this player is about. He didn't like to train, he never played a 200 foot game. What is of limited use is whoever recommended the player to begin with.
They didn't like anyone else in that draft range? Then, pay to move up or trade the pick for an asset or another draft year but don't settle for a too heavily flawed player.
Up to the Habs to do their homework and tighten up their interview and evaluative process -- they need to learn from this. You can't go on squandering first round picks, even those in the third tier of the first round -- there is still a high enough ratio at that point, for the player to make it to the NHL.
Or maybe, there is nothing to learn. Maybe some of the scouting staff needs to be audited and replaced.
There is absolutely nothing to like from this move. A first round asset was lost for nothing. This is not a viable strategy for any club.
It's fine to draft a flawed player, and it's true that Scherbak had some flaws, though not sure why you're accusing him of not training, he seems in good health, from the pictures I've seen and his play on the ice. Defensive flaws, sure. What they had on their hands is a skilled package of a player, no matter what you think of the actual player, I'm not sure anyone can disagree with this. Scherbak had potential when he was drafted, of all the agencies, scouts and lists out there, he did not rank lower than 27. He was bad at the start of the 2013-2014 season defensively and he was not physical at all, but he made good strides there, while playing top minutes for the Blades. Why didn't they realize what they had on their hands ? Why do they keep trying to make players something theyre not ? Why is the Habs the only team (Or one of the only) that treats every player equal ? Theres a whole blue collar, earn it attitude around this team and it's just stupid. The media loves it too, RDS and TVA would rather see a team full of Danault than a team full of Domi. It's crazy how bad it's got. A franchise that used to praise players such as Roy, Robinson, Lafleur, Richard, Beliveau, Geoffrion is now praising the Danaults and Gorges of this world.
Just imagine if Scotty Bowman decided to jam Lafleur on the fourth line for his two first seasons instead of on the opposing wing of Shutt ?
I've said as much. However, once they are in the organization, what could the org. have done to minimize its losses?
There was a point in time between when they were drafted and this season, where their value was more than the interest those players garnered this season.
There was a flaw with how amateur scouting processed and evaluated the players.
Then there was a major flaw in management not having acted in a timely manner to cut bait with these players to at least recoup as much value as they could rather than lose them for nothing.
Exactly the point, keep it up.Your really comparing Lafleur and Scherbeurk ?
they did lose kavulchuck for a monthLA just claim Lepsic to. It will not take long before we see Sherback on the waivers again
Um. How long has this guy been a potential top six forward? How many full seasons has he even played? Sorry but you have to move on at some point. Scherbak wasn’t really pushing anyone out of the lineup, nor has he been healthy long enough to figure out if he was nhl material.You should never let a potential top 6 forward go in favour of keeping everyday 4th liners that are a dime a dozen. Terrible asset management.
You should never let a potential top 6 forward go in favour of keeping everyday 4th liners that are a dime a dozen. Terrible asset management.