Nikita Kucherov wins his third Art Ross Trophy matching McDavid with 3 120 point seasons

[Plastic Joseph]

Ovechkin actually has 1,102 goals. Bastards.

Ovi would have 8 hart trophies if the media didn't hate him

 

[Drake1588]

He'd get a lot more love for his dominance if he wasn't such a prick.

I think this is about right. Great player, probably a little underrated.

Awards are popularity contests and Kucherov is a colossal jackass, uninterested in preening for the camera or promoting the game. That's going to cost you at awards time. I doubt he's too broken up about it, mind you. I don't get the sense he much cares about awards or reputation. If he did, he would modify his behavior in public. That's sort of funny, but I can understand if he irritates many in the game.

 

[Acallabeth]

Just 160 points or so from being on par. A minor factor.

Kucherov outscored and outPPGed McDavid for 2 season in a row, no need to ridicule the idea that they're on the same level now (unless you're going to do the 'grace period' BS).

 

[Plastic Joseph]

I think this is about right. Great player, probably a little underrated.

Awards are popularity contests and Kucherov is a colossal jackass, uninterested in preening for the camera or promoting the game. That's going to cost you at awards time. I doubt he's too broken up about it, mind you. I don't get the sense he much cares about awards or reputation. If he did, he would modify his behavior in public. That's sort of funny, but I can understand if he irritates many in the game.

Could be.

Or maybe, he's just fell shy of major awards a few times. Winning the art Ross by 4 pts doesn't guarantee an mvp. Players and media both agreed. 4 more pts but 7 fewer goals That's basically a wash on raw totals.


Then you have basically every advanced stat leaning mackinnon.

He's the best offensive winger of a generation. He has an mvp. He hasn't done enough to deserve any more. Scoring titles are just that, scoring titles

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Kucherov outscored and outPPGed McDavid for 2 season in a row, no need to ridicule the idea that they're on the same level now (unless you're going to do the 'grace period' BS).

Cool. That's great.

Now did he do it over 7 seasons or was that poster just full of shit?

 

[Acallabeth]

Cool. That's great.

Now did he do it over 7 seasons or was that poster just full of shit?

He may have been a bit hasty with his numbers, but the point of Kucherov having a strong case for being McDavid's equal now is valid.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

He may have been a bit hasty with his numbers, but the point of Kucherov having a strong case for being McDavid's equal now is valid.

It's not

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

He may have been a bit hasty with his numbers, but the point of Kucherov having a strong case for being McDavid's equal now is valid.

This season you certainly can.

 

[Voight]

..and he secured it against the Sabres, even!

Sabres Merchant

 

[RussianBum86]

Lockout cup was way more valuable than a bubble or whatever the 2021 realigned year was. 2 covid cups probably equals about 0.75 of a normal one. In all honesty, nobody cares about those 2 years in any sport

Says the fan of a team that didn't win back to back cups. Didn't you need a little help for the refs waiving finally? offsides to even make it to the cup finals? That is an asterisk cup then ...

 

[Plastic Joseph]

Says the fan of a team that didn't win back to back cups. Didn't you need a little help for the refs waiving finally? offsides to even make it to the cup finals? That is an asterisk cup then ...

Back to back pandemic cups *

 

[RussianBum86]

Back to back pandemic cups *

So two cups and leading playoffs points setting post season records placing himself with Gretzky is still better than 1 cup and not putting yourself with Gretzky in playoff scoring ?

 

[Plastic Joseph]

So two cups and leading playoffs points setting post season records placing himself with Gretzky is still better than 1 cup and not putting yourself with Gretzky in playoff scoring ?

Pandemic playoffs *

 

[RussianBum86]

Pandemic playoffs *

You just can't admit kucherov outperforms Mackinnon and is better. Let Me know when Mackinnon can put himself on 3 or more statically all time great categories with Gretzky.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

You just can't admit kucherov outperforms Mackinnon and is better. Let Me know when Mackinnon can put himself on 3 or more statically all time great categories with Gretzky.

NHL players agree that Mackinnon is better than kucherov.

Write a letter to the PA if you don't agree with them. It's definitely Russian bias man

 

[Voight]

Is it cute though? Why would you compare Mackinnon's age seasons where Kucherov at the same age wasn't even in the league? Not to mention Tampa played two weak Cinderella run teams for their two cups. Mack is two years younger and hit his prime faster, he might be producing at these rates after Kuch has fallen off.

Kuch has also never really not played for a good team, it was considered an epic fail when Tampa missed by one point in 2017. Mack had to start his career playing behind Matt Duchene insisting to be the #1C while Colorado missed the playoffs every year. Their numbers are near identical when both playing on contenders.

The 2020 Stars were not a cinderella team at all....

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Very impressive. Well done.

 

[Ezpz]

The 2020 Stars were not a cinderella team at all....

legitimately no one had them even getting to the conference finals.

 

[Voight]

legitimately no one had them even getting to the conference finals.

Source?

 

[VinikToWinIt]

You can always count on a thread congratulating Kucherov on an accomplishment crumbling into emotionally-charged character attacks, and eventually "my Cup wins > your Cup wins!!!!".

Never change, hockey fans.

 

[Beyonder91]

You can always count on a thread congratulating Kucherov on an accomplishment crumbling into emotionally-charged character attacks, and eventually "my Cup wins > your Cup wins!!!!".

Never change, hockey fans.

It's mainly just one very upset Mackinnon superfan looking for any way to attack Kucherov.

The best playmaker and smarter player is keeping Mack from those scoring titles hardware.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

It's mainly just one very upset Mackinnon superfan looking for any way to attack Kucherov.

The best playmaker and smarter player is keeping Mack from those scoring titles hardware.

If you can't tell I'm genuinely just trolling.

"Therussianbum86" and a few others with their victim complex have been derailing every thread for the last 18 months repeating the exact. Same. Thing.

Kucherov is amazing and 3 art ross is epic. I just get a kick out of how wound up they get if you don't put kucherov on the same level as mcdavid or even Gretzky’s lol.

I'm not even an avs fan. I just got annoyed with the amount of times they need to repeat the same "waah Russian bias" in every single thread

 

[Matsun]

Facts are facts. Players just wanted to recoup some $ they lost.

Nobody actually wanted to play in the bubble.

As for 21, slightly more valid but still didn't even play a western conference opponent in the finals.

No shame admitting those 2 years are the least cared about championships in sports history.

How is it an argument against Kucherov that the he and his team cared about winning when apparently no one else did? Isn't it a good thing that he is a winner? I thought that was a celebrated quality.

 

[tanti9]

He's been a dominant force for years now. And yet most people see him as an elite player and nothing else. Lol.
He's a generational talent, just like Ovie predicted back in 2016, where he anticipated Kuch becoming one of the greatest russian players to ever play in the NHL.
Best playmaking winger of all time.
Once his career is over he'll end up being top 3 winger all time.
Generational.

I agree with this sentiment. Obviously, everyone knows that Kucherov is star and elite talent but has to be considered in the same tier as Drai, Mckinn etc and even has the Rings to back his career. I believe he is a phenomenal player and is a difference maker on most nights.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

You can literally set your watch to HF falling into shambles every time Kucherov succeeds at something.

Yeah. I have really bad news for you folks. He's got probably got at least 2 more scoring titles in him and probably another 100 assist season. Whether the voters just give the MVP to someone else anyway is up to them. I don't know how much more proof anyone needs that Mack's MVP was bullshit.

Go ahead and screw Kucherov over again. He'll probably go out of his way to eclipse McDavid's 153 point season next.