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Edit: it's 1995-96, not 86 obviously.
2 of the highest scoring seasons by a winger ever, both in nearly identical scoring environments. 3.11 this year and 3.14 in 1995-96. Which was the better season? I picked this Jagr season due to the statistical similarities individually and leaguewide, but If this ends up being a wash, I will make another poll comparing it to Jagr's 1998-99 season.
Jagr 1995-96
GP82 G62. A87. P149
- 2nd in points, 42 points gap over 10th scorer, 55 points gap over 20th place
-2nd in PPG
-2nd in goals, 15 goals gap over 10th, 23 goal gap over 20th
-3rd in GPG
-95 EVP, 19 more than 2nd best, 34 more than 10th, 37 more than 20th
-4th in hart voting
Kucherov
GP82. G44. A100. P144
-1st in points, 46 points more than 10th best, 56 points more than 20th
-1st in PPG
-10th in goals and GPG
-gauranteed Hart and Pearson finalist
-91 EVP, 28 more than 10th, 36 more than 20th
Jagr's case rests on being the significantly better goalscorer. Jagr's lead over the 3rd best goalscorer in his season is the same as Kucherov's goal scoring lead over 20th place.
The argument against him is he had significantly more support. He played with Lemieux on the PP, who led the league in virtually every statistical category while missing nearly 20 games.
Beyond that, he was also centered by Francis, who finished 4th in scoring while being one of the best two way players in the game, and Nedved, who finished 14th in scoring.
Lastly, the team finished 2nd in the east, and led the league in G/GP and PP%
In comparison, Kucherov's highest scoring teammate is Point, who he finished 54 points ahead of, and is 16th in scoring and 8th in goals. Similar to Nedved in output, but clearly a level behind Francis.
His team finished 6th in the east, 5th in G/GP and 1st in PP%
Overall, Kucherov accomplished what he did with a noticeably weaker team and supporting cast. But in fairness to Jagr, he would prove he could accomplish what he did without the supporting cast. 1998-99 would end up being just as good a season based on domination over peers and adjusted stats. So make of that what you will.
2 of the highest scoring seasons by a winger ever, both in nearly identical scoring environments. 3.11 this year and 3.14 in 1995-96. Which was the better season? I picked this Jagr season due to the statistical similarities individually and leaguewide, but If this ends up being a wash, I will make another poll comparing it to Jagr's 1998-99 season.
Jagr 1995-96
GP82 G62. A87. P149
- 2nd in points, 42 points gap over 10th scorer, 55 points gap over 20th place
-2nd in PPG
-2nd in goals, 15 goals gap over 10th, 23 goal gap over 20th
-3rd in GPG
-95 EVP, 19 more than 2nd best, 34 more than 10th, 37 more than 20th
-4th in hart voting
Kucherov
GP82. G44. A100. P144
-1st in points, 46 points more than 10th best, 56 points more than 20th
-1st in PPG
-10th in goals and GPG
-gauranteed Hart and Pearson finalist
-91 EVP, 28 more than 10th, 36 more than 20th
Jagr's case rests on being the significantly better goalscorer. Jagr's lead over the 3rd best goalscorer in his season is the same as Kucherov's goal scoring lead over 20th place.
The argument against him is he had significantly more support. He played with Lemieux on the PP, who led the league in virtually every statistical category while missing nearly 20 games.
Beyond that, he was also centered by Francis, who finished 4th in scoring while being one of the best two way players in the game, and Nedved, who finished 14th in scoring.
Lastly, the team finished 2nd in the east, and led the league in G/GP and PP%
In comparison, Kucherov's highest scoring teammate is Point, who he finished 54 points ahead of, and is 16th in scoring and 8th in goals. Similar to Nedved in output, but clearly a level behind Francis.
His team finished 6th in the east, 5th in G/GP and 1st in PP%
Overall, Kucherov accomplished what he did with a noticeably weaker team and supporting cast. But in fairness to Jagr, he would prove he could accomplish what he did without the supporting cast. 1998-99 would end up being just as good a season based on domination over peers and adjusted stats. So make of that what you will.
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