Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 8

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Player Discussion - Nick Suzuki Part VII

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[angusyoung]

Current impression, solid ,reliable 2 way center that will only improve.

 

[26Mats]

He seems to have earned himself a nice run with good players like Kovalchuk on his wings.

With Drouin and Byron coming back, his linemates (as well as Domi's) should continue to be good - unlike most of the year.

 

[montreal]

hopefully he's learning a ton from Kovalchuk that he can use for the future.

 

[scrubadam]

Can we fast forward into the future where we complain that Nick isn't a 1st line C and is holding back "insert high draft pick here" from greatness?

Just want to get ahead of the board and turn on him before everyone does.

 

[Andrei79]

hopefully he's learning a ton from Kovalchuk that he can use for the future.

Having guys like Kovy for our potential top 6 prospects is so important for their development. I hope we resign him. Or someone like him.

If the only thing MB can get is a third, then he's way more valuable on Suzuki's wing.

 

[Big Empty]

Can we fast forward into the future where we complain that Nick isn't a 1st line C and is holding back "insert high draft pick here" from greatness?

Just want to get ahead of the board and turn on him before everyone does.

Suzuki is pacing for nearly 50 points in his rookie season. No one will be complaining about him playing first line minutes, trust me.

 

[Andrei79]

Can we fast forward into the future where we complain that Nick isn't a 1st line C and is holding back "insert high draft pick here" from greatness?

Just want to get ahead of the board and turn on him before everyone does.

I'm positive Suzuki's going to be a legitimate 1 or 2.

That Julien actually played him more than Danault is really all you need to know. I'm not worried there. We all want guys who can hurt you in different ways and that's what he is.

Danault, not so much. He's a compliment to any line he's on. But he lacks the skill.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Pierre Lebrun was talking about Suzuki last night and the progression he made from Sept of 18 to Sept of 19. And he said imagine if he improves his power skating this summer where he gets an extra step.... It's exactly what I've been thinking about as well. If he can get that extra step... we might have our star boys!

Hungry to improve? Suzuki's got that IMO.

 

[The Great Weal]

Hungry to improve? Suzuki's got that IMO.

Let's just hope KK is hungry to improve too.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Let's just hope KK is hungry to improve too.

Agreed. Not too concerned about it yet. I think we need to see how he looks when he fills into that frame. Age 21-23 range is what I say. Mantha type time for development?

I think Poehling is hungry to improve as well. Curious to see how he looks heading into next season. Who knows about Brook and Fleury.

 

[Barilko]

If only our blind leaders could land a true number 1 Center



2—Suzuki 3-Danault. 4— Poehling. Would look pretty solid for the first time in oh too many years.

 

[scrubadam]

I'm positive Suzuki's going to be a legitimate 1 or 2.

That Julien actually played him more than Danault is really all you need to know. I'm not worried there. We all want guys who can hurt you in different ways and that's what he is.

Danault, not so much. He's a compliment to any line he's on. But he lacks the skill.

Suzuki is pacing for nearly 50 points in his rookie season. No one will be complaining about him playing first line minutes, trust me.

I guess if his name was Dick Dzuki then maybe fans would start complaining LOL.

 

[The Great Weal]

This guy is awesome. Looks like development didn't suck with him. OR maybe he is just actually good but nah that's never it.

 

[Cobra Commander]

I had a good laugh on the main boards, some dooche trying to trade Suzuki + Caufield for Brady Tkatchuk

Another guy trying to trade Suzuki, KK, Caufield + 2020 1st for Lafreniere LMAO

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I had a good laugh on the main boards, some dooche trying to trade Suzuki + Caufield for Brady Tkatchuk

Another guy trying to trade Suzuki, KK, Caufield + 2020 1st for Lafreniere LMAO

I wouldn’t trade Suzuki straight up for Tkachuk. I think Suzuki ends up the better player, especially positions considered.

KK on the other hand, looks like a horrible pick in hindsight.

 

[Cobra Commander]

I wouldn’t trade Suzuki straight up for Tkachuk. I think Suzuki ends up the better player, especially positions considered.

KK on the other hand, looks like a horrible pick in hindsight.

Suzuki already is the better player right now, much better, high talent high IQ

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Suzuki already is the better player right now, much better, high talent high IQ

I think it’s pretty close. Tkachuk had a great rookie year last year, but he’s also only 1 month younger than Suzuki due to his late September birthday he was not eligible for the 2017 draft.

I think it would be a toss up depending on what your team needed. But just imagine had we drafted Tkachuk and he was on Suzuki’s wing.... that could of worked.

I had Tkachuk as a huge Do Not Draft(atleast not at 3), I was very wrong on that one.

 

[Cobra Commander]

I think it’s pretty close. Tkachuk had a great rookie year last year, but he’s also only 1 month younger than Suzuki due to his late September birthday he was not eligible for the 2017 draft.

I think it would be a toss up depending on what your team needed. But just imagine had we drafted Tkachuk and he was on Suzuki’s wing.... that could of worked.

I had Tkachuk as a huge Do Not Draft(atleast not at 3), I was very wrong on that one.

I don’t think you were wrong, look at his numbers he’s nothing special right now, I think his ceiling is maximum 60 points. KK will be the better player and he’s a Centerman

 

[Doublechin]

I think it’s pretty close. Tkachuk had a great rookie year last year, but he’s also only 1 month younger than Suzuki due to his late September birthday he was not eligible for the 2017 draft.

I think it would be a toss up depending on what your team needed. But just imagine had we drafted Tkachuk and he was on Suzuki’s wing.... that could of worked.

I had Tkachuk as a huge Do Not Draft(atleast not at 3), I was very wrong on that one.

Most people on this board had Tkachuk out of their top 10. Lol.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Most people on this board had Tkachuk out of their top 10. Lol.

That was the consensus on most of HF, not just the Habs board.

Most people also thought Cody Glass was a better prospect than Suzuki, and while that may still be the end result, it certainly doesn’t look that way at all right now.

 

[montreal]

This guy is awesome. Looks like development didn't suck with him. OR maybe he is just actually good but nah that's never it.

The same thing was said last year about Kotka, which was also said when Galchenyuk was scoring 30 goals for us. None of it means anything since each player is his own and Suzuki is likely smarter then both while not having their skating concerns which in today's NHL is certainly very important. But still one just has to read last years posts on Kotka and how posters were telling me how wrong I was for wanting Kotka to spend another year in Liiga. Now he's considered garbage. We all know how fans were going nuts for Galchenyuk in his first few years but oh how did that story change in a hurry.

But guys with very high end skill should overcome any development issues as long as they don't have physical issues like skating, speed, size, strength, IQ, effort, it's the guys that aren't as skilled that can't just go on a tear and put up a few goals to get their confidence going.

Everyone should agree the development under MB has down right terrible. For me I have never seen an organization make so many mistakes and still be employed.

 

[The Great Weal]

The same thing was said last year about Kotka, which was also said when Galchenyuk was scoring 30 goals for us. None of it means anything since each player is his own and Suzuki is likely smarter then both while not having their skating concerns which in today's NHL is certainly very important. But still one just has to read last years posts on Kotka and how posters were telling me how wrong I was for wanting Kotka to spend another year in Liiga. Now he's considered garbage. We all know how fans were going nuts for Galchenyuk in his first few years but oh how did that story change in a hurry.

But guys with very high end skill should overcome any development issues, it's the guys that aren't as skilled that can't just go on a tear and put up a few goals to get their confidence going.

Everyone should agree the development under MB has down right terrible. For me I have never seen an organization make so many mistakes and still be employed.

I don't think playing Kotkaniemi in the NHL was the wrong call. He looked good and basically forced Plekanec to retire. I personally don't think he came to camp ready also injuries didn't help. Suzuki has looked great and better than Kotkaniemi last year. Let's not forget that Suzuki earned his spot on the team.

Would be nice if we could draft players like him but that's a huge order for Timmins who drafts by need no matter what.

 

[montreal]

I don't think playing Kotkaniemi in the NHL was the wrong call. He looked good and basically forced Plekanec to retire. I personally don't think he came to camp ready also injuries didn't help. Suzuki has looked great and better than Kotkaniemi last year. Let's not forget that Suzuki earned his spot on the team.

Would be nice if we could draft players like him but that's a huge order for Timmins who drafts by need no matter what.

It's very clear it was the wrong call, you don't go from playing that well to putting up 2 assists when you are a playmaker first. That's brutal.

Suzuki is 20 and coming off one of the best playoffs in OHL history, he should be better and is. That shouldn't be a knock on Kotka who needs to make the improvements in his skating and strength that Suzuki did as he made huge strides from his age 16 and 17 seasons when I saw him to where his skating is now. Of course he filled out and got stronger which he badly needed but did. Some guys clearly don't work hard enough, ala Kristo, Fischer, Collberg, etc... at that 18, 19, 20 age and think their talent will carry them. Good on Suzuki to show he's committed to becoming a very good NHLer.

 

[1909]

We got our future #1 centerman... FINALLY !