Nick Suzuki has levelled up as a premier centre

[Kennedys]

Tier 1 - can win art ross/hart/lindsay on any given year

1. McDavid
2. MacKinnon
3. Draisatl

Tier 2 - Superstars
4. Matthews
5. Crosby
6. Barkov

Tier 3
7. Eichel
8. J. Hughes
9. Brayden point
10 Mark Scheifele

Then we have the tier 4 #1 C where Suzuki lands.

Suzuki, Hischier, Petterson, Thomas, Stutzle, Larkin, Hintz, Aho, Miller, Keller, Tavares, Johnson, etc.

Nick is close to have a shot at tier 3

 

[Aurinko]

MTL has been on interesting trajectory since they snatched Suzuki from VGK.

It was quite clear from the beginning the deal was horrendous for VGK, but they've gone with their all-in attitude ever since. MTL on the other hand has had long time plan, that seems to be paying off: they have managed to gather some of the best talent in NHL and make it stick without losing the working class brand. Hutson (based on todays solo coast-to-coast goal alone) could be a "generational talent", Suzuki is very smart for a hockey player, picks his words fantastic and is seemingly a top tier captain in leadership sense.

 

[Big Trout]

We’re still talking about that cake walk series vs the leafs in 21? I wish the habs decided to try a little earlier than game 5 but once they did it was all over

You got it backward, once the Leafs had 3 wins they were finished.

 

[Kimota]

You mean doublehandedly. Yes they are.

I started writing this thinking of Suz but then i went oh shit, there's Hutson too! lol

 

[Kimota]

Yeah. Until the playoffs started and we realized why the F did we waste 14 million on this loser?

The idea is that having a player effortlessly putting up points on a constant basic, it makes it easier for the whole roster and we easily get to the playoffs. And when we get there, we have clutch guys to make up for it.

 

[waitin425]

It's called a 'hot streak', calm down lol. "Unreal" - lmao

hell of a 20 game hot streak as they chase a playoff spot.

 

[BLONG7]

It just reminds me of the clown that said that Suzuki had one of the worst contract in the league.

Some guys don't watch the player, but hate the team............hilarious.

They said last night, Suzuki sits 6th in scoring of all centres in the league.....mic drop.

 

[ole ole]

Because of a 26 game stretch. If that is the new normal, then hell yeah, but he was pacing at 75 before that. My point is, what is real?

What is real? 83 pts with 8 games remaining.
What is real? 7th OA in points for a C.
All that adds up to being in the top 10 C in the league.

 

[AvatarAang]

We’re still talking about that cake walk series vs the leafs in 21? I wish the habs decided to try a little earlier than game 5 but once they did it was all over

Yea if only the habs injured Tavares in game 1 the series would be over a lot sooner

Strange that habs fans are still complaining about kreider injuring price but they conveniently ignore the fact that toronto lost Tavares and Winnipeg lost scheifele in back to back series against the habs.

 

[Le Tricolore]

Dom alphabet. That was certainly a take.

The article he posted about that even said he'd be wrong. He used his model to spit out numbers for an article and gave his comments.

I really wish people actually read the article they like to bring up since Dom clearly said he doesn't actually agree with it.

 

[Voodoo Child]

When the Habs play the Leafs I almost always notice Suzuki in a good way. Very smart player, rarely makes a bad decision with the puck in the offensive zone.

I don't see him jumping into the top tier of centers but he's definitely a #1C - no shit you'd rather have Mackinnon or Barkov but a perennial PPG center is a very nice development curve for him.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Yea if only the habs injured Tavares in game 1 the series would be over a lot sooner

Strange that habs fans are still complaining about kreider injuring price but they conveniently ignore the fact that toronto lost Tavares and Winnipeg lost scheifele in back to back series against the habs.

Schefele took himself out of that series because he’s a moron. And tavares saw perrys knee coming and did nothing.


Injuries are part of hockey. Happens. Doesn’t take away from that being the easiest series of 2021 for Montreal

 

[AvatarAang]

Schefele took himself out of that series because he’s a moron. And tavares saw perrys knee coming and did nothing.


Injuries are part of hockey.

It took over a decade but habs fans have finally admitted that injuries are part of hockey:

 

[Frank Drebin]

Im triggered almost as much as seeing that useless midget in a habs uniform.

Again, easiest, least entertaining series of 2021. Only positive of it was the leafs fans reactions but even those were a letdown.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

He’s played himself into top 10 center conversation for sure(idk if he quite breaks in yet) …. He has a legit shot at 90 points.

Over the last 2 seasons combined, he should end up over ppg.

Crazy they got via trade.

 

[Gustave]

The article he posted about that even said he'd be wrong. He used his model to spit out numbers for an article and gave his comments.

I really wish people actually read the article they like to bring up since Dom clearly said he doesn't actually agree with it.

I absolutely did.

The argument afterward is this; if you churn out an algo that forces you to notify the readers that some results are wrong/bad/erronous, why do you then proceed to further the promotion of said algo?

It’s self defeating. If I were to produce an analysis at work that needs a banner asking the reader, my bosses in this instant, to forego the results from the get go, I’d be asked to join a meeting with HR.

 

[WatchfulElm]

Yea if only the habs injured Tavares in game 1 the series would be over a lot sooner

Strange that habs fans are still complaining about kreider injuring price but they conveniently ignore the fact that toronto lost Tavares and Winnipeg lost scheifele in back to back series against the habs.

I'm "conveniently" forgetting which player Vegas lost that year that would explain why the Habs beat them.

 

[WatchfulElm]

2 things that are often overlooked when we talk about Suzuki.

1- He's never injured. Currently in a 449 games streak.

2- He almost never gets penalty. Only 6 minutes this season. He could very well earn the Lady Bing. (As well as the Selke!)

 

[TheDoldrums]

Most productive player since the Four Nations.

Serious Hart trophy consideration as he and Hutson are singlehandly bringing the Habs to the playoffs since the TDL.

Folks just be yapping

 

[viceroy]

The idea is that having a player effortlessly putting up points on a constant basic, it makes it easier for the whole roster and we easily get to the playoffs. And when we get there, we have clutch guys to make up for it.

14 fricking million dollars is gonna be his ask. What if Demidov gets comparable numbers to him in his second year? What if Hutson waits until we sign Marner to re-sign? They'd both want near 14mil as well. Congratulations, you've just inherited TML's f'd up wage cap structure. Congratulations, your Cup contention window is closed.

Just damn foolish as an ask. The people that ask to trade for Crosby are more reasonable.

 

[Frank Drebin]

14 fricking million dollars is gonna be his ask. What if Demidov gets comparable numbers to him in his second year? What if Hutson waits until we sign Marner to re-sign? They'd both want near 14mil as well. Congratulations, you've just inherited TML's f'd up wage cap structure. Congratulations, your Cup contention window is closed.

Just damn foolish as an ask. The people that ask to trade for Crosby are more reasonable.

I'd take Tavares on a discount. I believe he was cup chasing when he signed in Toronto 7 years ago. Signing with a team like Montreal could give him a real chance to achieve that goal.

 

[mfilipo3]

Also Caufield and Guhle are good picks

Montembeault was also a good waiver pickup.

 

[CTHabsfan]

He’s played himself into top 10 center conversation for sure(idk if he quite breaks in yet) …. He has a legit shot at 90 points.

Over the last 2 seasons combined, he should end up over ppg.

Crazy they got via trade.

Crazier that the Canadiens would have ended up with Cody Glass had Vegas given in to Marc Bergevin. Good thing he was willing to settle for Nick Suzuki.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

The article he posted about that even said he'd be wrong. He used his model to spit out numbers for an article and gave his comments.

I really wish people actually read the article they like to bring up since Dom clearly said he doesn't actually agree with it.

Then he shouldn't have posted it.

I mean, pretty much anything he does is f***ing terrible and shouldn't be posted, but when you just random piss out numbers and don't agree with it, maybe don't post that as an actual article.

 

[malcb33]

Tier 1 - can win art ross/hart/lindsay on any given year

1. McDavid
2. MacKinnon
3. Draisatl

Tier 2 - Superstars
4. Matthews
5. Crosby
6. Barkov

Tier 3
7. Eichel
8. J. Hughes
9. Brayden point
10 Mark Scheifele

Then we have the tier 4 #1 C where Suzuki lands.

Suzuki, Hischier, Petterson, Thomas, Stutzle, Larkin, Hintz, Aho, Miller, Keller, Tavares, Johnson, etc.

I agree with your assessment of tiers 1 and 2 C's (maybe Hughes could be in tier 2) but personally, I think the players you have in tiers 3 and 4 are all fairly close and could be interchanged depending on their year (good or bad).

Suzuki has also played on very bad teams for most of his career to this point. He's improving steadily every year and is now getting to play on a more competitive (deeper) team, and I think he can still continue to improve as well. People calling him a 2c are out to lunch.