Player Discussion Nick Suzuki - Game Winning Goals Edition

[Rapala]

He doesn’t have a powerful stride, but has quick feet. For example, if he raced suzuki, Suzuki would take 3 strides to his 5 and be ahead by a stick length.

He excels at moving when he sees others are not. Flat footed D off the rush, movement around the offensive zone.

I'm not buying this at all not one bit of it.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

He doesn’t have a powerful stride, but has quick feet. For example, if he raced suzuki, Suzuki would take 3 strides to his 5 and be ahead by a stick length.

He excels at moving when he sees others are not. Flat footed D off the rush, movement around the offensive zone.

Suzuki is faster than Caufield ,

I think Caufield might be faster with the puck on his stick though

 

[Rapala]

Suzuki is faster than Caufield ,

I think Caufield might be faster with the puck on his stick though

I realize he's faster I don't agree with the number of strides it would take to catch him.
Caufield is far quicker off the mark which shows up big time in restrained areas.
The actual stats (NHL Edge) have CC at 22.16 and NS at 22.45 Nick Suzuki is not catching Cole Caufield in three strides.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I realize he's faster I don't agree with the number of strides it would take to catch him.
Caufield is far quicker off the mark which shows up big time in restrained areas.
The actual stats (NHL Edge) have CC at 22.16 and NS at 22.45 Nick Suzuki is not catching Cole Caufield in three strides.

Yeah I agree with you , caufields first burst is quicker , which makes sense considering their size and weight and position and style of play lol

 

[Ozmodiar]

I realize he's faster I don't agree with the number of strides it would take to catch him.
Caufield is far quicker off the mark which shows up big time in restrained areas.
The actual stats (NHL Edge) have CC at 22.16 and NS at 22.45 Nick Suzuki is not catching Cole Caufield in three strides.

The exact number of strides wasn’t the point.

The point is CC’s quick feet gives the appearance of a quicker burst which simply isn’t the case.

You mention Edge data.
Suzuki - 503 bursts > 20 mph
CC - 373 busts > 20 mph

Plus the eye test, esp when you see them up close and live.

Not perfect example, but you can see how they differ on Suzuki’s big playoff OT goal vs leafs. Caufield takes about 7 strides in the NZ while NS takes 4 then coasts to stay onside.

 

[Rapala]

The exact number of strides wasn’t the point.

The point is CC’s quick feet gives the appearance of a quicker burst which simply isn’t the case.

You mention Edge data.
Suzuki - 503 bursts > 20 mph
CC - 373 busts > 20 mph

Plus the eye test, esp when you see them up close and live.

Not perfect example, but you can see how they differ on Suzuki’s big playoff OT goal vs leafs. Caufield takes about 7 strides in the NZ while NS takes 4 then coasts to stay onside.

Just stop it we all watch the games Caufield is much quicker than Suzuki. I could care less about strides.
Bursts have nothing to do with it Suzuki gets all those bursts on the PP carrying speed from behind the net.

Hockey is all about stops and starts and the quicker player is the one who gets from A-B in those restrained areas the fastest and yes that includes jumping into those open spaces.

That my friend is Cole Caufield.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Just stop it we all watch the games Caufield is much quicker than Suzuki.
Bursts have nothing to do with it Suzuki gets all those bursts on the PP carrying speed from behind the net.

Hockey is all about stops and starts and the quicker player is the one who gets from A-B in those restrained areas the fastest and yes that includes jumping into those open spaces.

That my friend is Cole Caufield.

Not true at all.
Quicker feet doesn’t necessarily translate to faster acceleration.

I posted the edge data for you.

 

[DAChampion]

Most valuable player on the team in my opinion.

 

[Rapala]

Not true at all.
Quicker feet doesn’t necessarily translate to faster acceleration.

I posted the edge data for you.

Great and I'll just watch the games seeing Caufield being the quicker player when an small openings appear.
Your stats are great if hockey was a completely open game it isn't.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Great and I'll just watch the games seeing Caufield being the quicker player when an small openings appear.
Your stats are great if hockey was a completely open game it isn't.

Great. when you’re watching games you’ll see Suzuki isn’t going full speed on the PP slingshot. Again, the “appearance” is fooling you. A lot of his bursts are him going the other way, defending. Without the puck.

Also, you can take a closer look at how CC is getting open (*in restrained areas). It’s by maintaining movement/momentum and using agility and timing to get open. Often he’ll get open skating backwards (opening up).

Both these examples are all about *speed differential*.

All about “starts and stops” to get open in the ozone? This ain’t the 1980’s man. Put the howie meeker videos away.

*edit

 

[Rapala]

Great. when you’re watching games you’ll see Suzuki isn’t going full speed on the PP slingshot. Again, the “appearance” is fooling you. A lot of his bursts are him going the other way, defending. Without the puck.

Also, you can take a closer look at how CC is getting open. It’s by maintaining movement/momentum and using agility and timing to get open. Often he’ll get open skating backwards (opening up).

Both these examples are all about *speed differential*.

All about “starts and stops” to get open in the ozone? This ain’t the 1980’s man. Put the howie meeker videos away.

Yeah cause there is tons of room in the Dzone Neutral zone and the Ozone. RESTRAINED AREAS
Do you realize how little of a difference .29 makes over 200ft? We aren't talking the fast guys at over 24 MPH here mate.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Yeah cause there is tons of room in the Dzone Neutral zone and the Ozone. RESTRAINED AREAS
Do you realize how little of a difference .29 makes over 200ft? We aren't talking the fast guys at over 24 MPH here mate.

edited for you.

Thanks for doing the math on the data you posted.

 

[Rapala]

edited for you.

Thanks for doing the math on the data you posted.

100m at 22.45 Suzuki 9.96 100m at 22.16 Caufield 10.09
That's like a blink of an eye at the Olympics.

 

[Vachon23]

Most valuable player on the team

Better like that

No need to say in your opinion, it’s a fact