Proposal: Nichushkin...if contract termination isn't an option

[Dipsy Doodle]

Unprecedented situation given his performance, loss of trust based on off ice issues, the nature of those issues, and contract.

What would his value be?

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[Bond]

I feel like there is a higher chance of a contract termination than a trade if he remains suspended. Guy needs to get sober before anything else happens.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

What would his value be?

He's going to have no value on that contract given what he's done. He'll only be scoopes up on a cheap one year deal after his suspension is lifted if he shows some progress again.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Can’t see any value

 

[Rec T]

I can't see contract termination 'not' being an option. By his actions he caused the situation he's in. I'm sure that there's language in the contract that will give the Avs an 'out' to cut ties with him.

But to play along...the first offer of a 5-7th rounder that Colorado receives.


(Edit: Should have added that the termination would only happen once he's out of the player assistance program. There are good & logical reasons why the CBA won't allow adverse actions against anyone in the program)

 

[CanMerc]

Any news on what exactly happened…he skated the morning skate, then…boom.. done before the game that same night

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Why wouldn’t the Avs be allowed to terminate his contract? He broke the league’s code of conduct rules!

 

[vipera1960]

I can't see contract termination 'not' being an option. By his actions he caused the situation he's in. I'm sure that there's language in the contract that will give the Avs an 'out' to cut ties with him.

But to play along...the first offer of a 5-7th rounder that Colorado receives.

I can. Since he’s in player assistance there’s no way they are going to be able to “terminate” the rest of the contract without having to pay out all (or at least most if there’s a settlement) of the money and take it as dead cap. They’re better off just letting him come back. If he violates again it’s stage 4, and then they can argue for non-reinstatement and some permanent relief.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

nobody should want this player he can't be trusted and he doesn't give a f*** he just doesn't care

 

[Bond]

I can. Since he’s in player assistance there’s no way they are going to be able to “terminate” the rest of the contract without having to pay out all (or at least most if there’s a settlement) of the money and take it as dead cap. They’re better off just letting him come back. If he violates again it’s stage 4, and then they can argue for non-reinstatement and some permanent relief.

The Avs will just need to take some lessons from the Kings

 

[Frank Drebin]

I feel that he's done in the league.

Oilers maybe

 

[oilers4life5]

Well the Oilers take on every reclamation project they can if the cap hit is cheap. So expect him to get terminated and the Oilers to sign for cheap.

 

[SoupNazi]

I don't see any value. Maybe something similar to Vrana (a future 7th for the player at 50% retained) but I have my doubts he even fetches that much.

 

[WarriorofTime]

If he is terminated he will go to khl.

 

[Canovin]

Nuke for Jack Campbell

 

[Pongs21]

Instantly thought of Carolina here. Buy low trade or sign after contract termination.

 

[StewieP19]

I can. Since he’s in player assistance there’s no way they are going to be able to “terminate” the rest of the contract without having to pay out all (or at least most if there’s a settlement) of the money and take it as dead cap. They’re better off just letting him come back. If he violates again it’s stage 4, and then they can argue for non-reinstatement and some permanent relief.

You got 100% on this one and we can add this.
Colorado will make 2025 playoff with or without him.
they just have to wait until End December to mid February and he will be cut again.
It will left a lot of cap space for Colorado to add depth or key players at the deadline

 

[The Macho King]

I can't see contract termination 'not' being an option. By his actions he caused the situation he's in. I'm sure that there's language in the contract that will give the Avs an 'out' to cut ties with him.

But to play along...the first offer of a 5-7th rounder that Colorado receives.

There is a collectively bargained process to discipline people in his situation - there's zero chance a contract termination holds up.

Looking it up - a buyout isn't crippling for the Avs. If they want out of it that's probably the way.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

As a Pens fan, I would offer the Avs a mid-round pick or depth roster player who might help them now if contract termination isn't an option.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Isn't vrana in the AHL because of this exact reason? Dudes gonna be looked at extremely close going forward by the NHL does any team really want that extra baggage?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I can. Since he’s in player assistance there’s no way they are going to be able to “terminate” the rest of the contract without having to pay out all (or at least most if there’s a settlement) of the money and take it as dead cap. They’re better off just letting him come back. If he violates again it’s stage 4, and then they can argue for non-reinstatement and some permanent relief.

Not how it works. Thr player assistance program is not meant to take accoutability away from the player. Hes already suspended without pay.

There is a collectively bargained process to discipline people in his situation - there's zero chance a contract termination holds up.

Looking it up - a buyout isn't crippling for the Avs. If they want out of it that's probably the way.

Tell that to Mike Richards. Buy outs are not used for situations like this because theres a material breach od contract. Theres gonna be a settement though.

 

[jjniner]

Vrana in the AHL because he couldn’t crack a bad Blues team roster.

 

[The Macho King]

Not how it works. Thr player assistance program is not meant to take accoutability away from the player. Hes already suspended without pay.


Tell that to Mike Richards. Buy outs are not used for situations like this because theres a material breach od contract. Theres gonna be a settement though.

The Richards situation was very different.

I know you're hoping hoping hoping but unless it's mutual, termination ain't happening.

 

[Ezpz]

Not how it works. Thr player assistance program is not meant to take accoutability away from the player. Hes already suspended without pay.


Tell that to Mike Richards. Buy outs are not used for situations like this because theres a material breach od contract. Theres gonna be a settement though.

Richards was smuggling drugs across a border and LA got punished for attempting to terminate. They still have five more years of cap penalties after this year.

 

[vipera1960]

Not how it works. Thr player assistance program is not meant to take accoutability away from the player. Hes already suspended without pay.


Tell that to Mike Richards. Buy outs are not used for situations like this because theres a material breach od contract. Theres gonna be a settement though.

Being in the player assistance program is, by definition, not a breach of contract. They might have a case if he uses up all of the strikes in the program, but as it is now they will lose when he sues to get all of his money.