There is no way DD pays $250k for a GM. I have a hard time thinking he will even pay $180k. When he first named himself as GM of the team, he did so because he wasn’t going to pay someone a GM’s salary when he could do the job himself. I remember when he named his initial coaching staff and not one person had any experience at the OHL level or higher. I knew this franchise was in trouble back then.
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there isnt really anyone who was in the mix worth top dollar, its not like brunet was in the mix or someone like that.
to note, i think in that first year the coach was probably making 45k or something along those lines.
Wait. I just got a message saying the GM will be Frank Viola, who apparently is an OHL scout. Is this true???
Some teams pay their Coaches better then the GM'S to bring in more talented coaching staff as well.
Most HC and GMS are in the 80-200K range. -Not a big difference in pay between the positions themselves but i'd bet that there is more money tied up into HC'S then there is GM'S.
Around the GTA area high end for obvious reasons.
Most HC and GMS are in the 80-200K range. -Not a big difference in pay between the positions themselves but i'd bet that there is more money tied up into HC'S then there is GM'S.
Around the GTA area high end for obvious reasons.
If he’s a scout let him be head of director or scouting or whatever title you want to call it they need them especially if he’s a good one
yes, evola. hes with windsor. director of hockey ops/scouting
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O’Rourke with the fronts?
Kory Cooper just won GM of the year gotta assume he’s here for a while unless he wants to leave
Or DD is going to make him be director of hockey ops and a scout and GM and everything else stays the same
trying to be respectful but not even close. frank evola was named above, thats the name
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Peanuts is what DD pays his employees (hockey and business ops).
DD didn’t hide the fact, that his idea of payment was the opportunity to coach, GM, scout or apply your skills and talents to an OHL team that he provided his employees. Anyone who was making money or wanted to make money was fired or replaced.
If it's Frank Evola age 52 is director of scouting and hockey operations of Windsor spitfires for 6 years ..before that 9 seasons head scout of oshawa generals said he played vital role in helping oshawa win 2015 memorial cup
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Ouch, very good hockey guy and knows his stuff. Big blow to Windsor if true.
He is no Matt Turek, George Burnett or Rob Simpson and for a team that is a complete mess top to bottom, they needed an experienced GM with credibility, but DD is too cheap and the OHL failed us again! Evola should have been hired as the Director of scouting not as GM.
Please…
#selltheteam FFS!!!
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Frank has been a lot more than a head scout in Windsor. Don't sell him short. He might be just what the Ice Dogs and the league need to fix the mess there.
So, just to clarify Darren couldn’t afford the most qualified GM candidate for the sh$tshow in Niagara. No red flags here.
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This is what I meant about the league screwing players and fans. Kids starting and kids gong into their draft year want to know what is happeing and what they will have for development. If the league and it is the league screwing this up not DD does not get their head out of their Reck tum then this is going to be a mass exodus.
As to the player having choices, the biggest one is the USHL. Scouts are watching the games, and kids with huge talent will shine anywhere.
WHY IS DD NOT TO BLAME.
It is simple: The league took over the team's hockey operations. They made the announcement and removed people from the picture. It goes without saying that they are choosing the new GM so they will be the ones dictating what he gets paid, and if DD can ot afford it, then they will make the decision as to how to go about it from there.
If the rumours are true about the HUNTERS wanting to slow down and train people to take over, I think Simpson would be stupid to take the job here when he is set to inherit the Knights as GM.
I actually think the problem is more easier to figure out than we think, Instead of too many to choose from there is a lack of qualified and able to stand up to DD GMs available. Let's face it you arenot going to put a rookie GM in that position. Look at the troubles Cooper had and he iwas in agood organization.
While you guys figure out the GM situation I would like to know why the OHL (Crawford) is covering up a major player issue with the IceDogs? Who are they protecting?
While what you are saying appeared to initially be the case, that is not what we are now hearing in Niagara. Here are some quotes from a recent article in the St Catharines Standard.
“The role will remain open until a suitable candidate is hired. In the interim, Wes Consorti continues to serve as acting GM,” Josh Sweetland, the league’s communications director, said in an interview.
“Once a final candidate is selected, the League will provide approval.”
“To clarify, the OHL is not currently operating the day-to-day affairs of the Niagara IceDogs. Darren DeDobbelaer remains owner and Governor of the team,” Sweetland said.
Basically since DD is still the owner, he pays the bills and has the right to select the GM he wants but the league has to approve it. DD will push for the cheapest candidate available.
Once the GM is in place, the GM can hire the staff he wants but the salaries have to fit the budget DD supplies. DD’s insistence on keeping the budget low will hurt this team.
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So what the hell is the league doing. This means absolutely nothing and teh only thing that has changed is that they canned to coaching staff.
The league has left this still in the mickeymouse category. Why did they even get involved if they are not doing anything.
YOu guys are getting screwed.
Let the player exodus begin.
