They weren't forced to sell, they chose to, sooner than fire their sons
Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III
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Those offers DD had probably should get a second look because if the league forces him to sell the price will plummet. Best he can hope for at this point is to get two groups competing with each other for the franchise.
Here is the latest on the investigation.
Niagara IceDogs under new investigation, ‘organizational culture’ probed by law firm - St. Catharines Standard
On the verge of their first playoff appearance in five seasons, the Niagara IceDogs franchise is under another dark cloud.
Ontario Hockey League confirmed Thursday it retained a Toronto law firm to investigate the “organizational culture” of the team following a series of complaints.
Multiple sources close to the IceDogs said the team’s owner, Darren DeDobbelaer, has been involved in game-day decisions, including setting lines, which impacts ice time for the players.
OHL suspended DeDobbelaer from the general manager’s role for two years after the end of the 2023 season following an incident involving IceDogs captain Landon Cato and goalie Joshua Rosenzweig, who were both permanently banned by the league. The league also fined the organization $100,000.
Reached by phone, DeDobbelaer directed the reporter to the league office and said “no comment” when asked if the league was investigating him for involvement in the team’s on-ice operations while suspended.
Multiple sources also said the league may be looking into an incident of sexual harassment — not involving DeDobbelaer — as well as player misbehaviour at a party that resulted in the “trashing” of a house.
Asked about those issues, DeDobbelaer also replied, “No comment.”
The OHL statement said the league has appointed director of player recruitment and player support services, Brodie Barrick, to work on site with and support team ownership, leadership and players on matters related to its Players First Program.
The program promotes the league’s post-secondary scholarships, on-ice development, player welfare and support systems, and diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
“The league takes these matters very seriously and has launched a third-party internal investigation into the allegations,” the statement emailed to The Standard said.
Former St. Catharines city councillor and IceDogs fan Lori Littleton took to Facebook with a post saying she had cancelled her season tickets — but would renew them if the league forces a team sale, adding it’s “time for the OHL to say enough’s enough.”
“I loved going to games, and the atmosphere was great,” Littleton wrote. “It was a lot of fun. Until it wasn’t.
“I have refused to renew my tickets, and this year, I forfeited my turn in my company’s box because I had heard rumblings. The team is again being investigated by the Ontario Hockey League and is basically getting babysat while a firm looks into its ‘culture.’
“Such a horrible thing for players and coaches and others involved with this franchise to deal with.”
Littleton, when asked about the Facebook post, said she hopes the team fixes its issues “so fans can have confidence in the team and the culture being fostered.”
The incident that resulted in DeDobbelaer’s suspension occurred in 2022.
At that time, commissioner David Branch advised DeDobbelaer that to protect the integrity of the process, the investigation was to be kept confidential, and he was not to speak with players or others concerning the subject matter.
During the 2021-22 regular season, general manager Joey Burke and head coach Billy Burke were suspended indefinitely for violating the league’s harassment, abuse and adversity policy,
The brothers, together with the team owned by their parents, were fined $150,000.
OHL imposed the sanctions after receiving transcripts of a March 6, 2022, WhatsApp conversation involving the head coach and general manager that contained offensive language.
The league said in a news release at the time that based on the results of its investigation, “it is the position of the league that their conduct is prejudicial to the welfare of the OHL as it violates the harassment, abuse and diversity policy.”
In 2019, OHL stripped the IceDogs of a first-round draft pick and fined the team $150,000 for player recruitment violations.
A former player had told OHL investigators the IceDogs had a secret “side deal” to pay him $10,000 for each of the four years he played for the team, but the IceDogs had reneged on the agreement.
The Burkes took the league to court seeking an interim injunction that would have stayed the disciplinary proceeding until a dispute between the team and the former player was arbitrated. Superior Court Justice James Ramsay denied the request.
The team also appealed the penalties to the league’s board of governors, which resulted in OHL reducing the fine from $250,000 and restoring one of the two first-round picks the team had been docked.
The team acknowledged violating the league’s player recruitment rules as part of the settlement.
Niagara IceDogs under new investigation, ‘organizational culture’ probed by law firm - St. Catharines Standard
On the verge of their first playoff appearance in five seasons, the Niagara IceDogs franchise is under another dark cloud.
Ontario Hockey League confirmed Thursday it retained a Toronto law firm to investigate the “organizational culture” of the team following a series of complaints.
Multiple sources close to the IceDogs said the team’s owner, Darren DeDobbelaer, has been involved in game-day decisions, including setting lines, which impacts ice time for the players.
OHL suspended DeDobbelaer from the general manager’s role for two years after the end of the 2023 season following an incident involving IceDogs captain Landon Cato and goalie Joshua Rosenzweig, who were both permanently banned by the league. The league also fined the organization $100,000.
Reached by phone, DeDobbelaer directed the reporter to the league office and said “no comment” when asked if the league was investigating him for involvement in the team’s on-ice operations while suspended.
Multiple sources also said the league may be looking into an incident of sexual harassment — not involving DeDobbelaer — as well as player misbehaviour at a party that resulted in the “trashing” of a house.
Asked about those issues, DeDobbelaer also replied, “No comment.”
The OHL statement said the league has appointed director of player recruitment and player support services, Brodie Barrick, to work on site with and support team ownership, leadership and players on matters related to its Players First Program.
The program promotes the league’s post-secondary scholarships, on-ice development, player welfare and support systems, and diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
“The league takes these matters very seriously and has launched a third-party internal investigation into the allegations,” the statement emailed to The Standard said.
Former St. Catharines city councillor and IceDogs fan Lori Littleton took to Facebook with a post saying she had cancelled her season tickets — but would renew them if the league forces a team sale, adding it’s “time for the OHL to say enough’s enough.”
“I loved going to games, and the atmosphere was great,” Littleton wrote. “It was a lot of fun. Until it wasn’t.
“I have refused to renew my tickets, and this year, I forfeited my turn in my company’s box because I had heard rumblings. The team is again being investigated by the Ontario Hockey League and is basically getting babysat while a firm looks into its ‘culture.’
“Such a horrible thing for players and coaches and others involved with this franchise to deal with.”
Littleton, when asked about the Facebook post, said she hopes the team fixes its issues “so fans can have confidence in the team and the culture being fostered.”
The incident that resulted in DeDobbelaer’s suspension occurred in 2022.
At that time, commissioner David Branch advised DeDobbelaer that to protect the integrity of the process, the investigation was to be kept confidential, and he was not to speak with players or others concerning the subject matter.
During the 2021-22 regular season, general manager Joey Burke and head coach Billy Burke were suspended indefinitely for violating the league’s harassment, abuse and adversity policy,
The brothers, together with the team owned by their parents, were fined $150,000.
OHL imposed the sanctions after receiving transcripts of a March 6, 2022, WhatsApp conversation involving the head coach and general manager that contained offensive language.
The league said in a news release at the time that based on the results of its investigation, “it is the position of the league that their conduct is prejudicial to the welfare of the OHL as it violates the harassment, abuse and diversity policy.”
In 2019, OHL stripped the IceDogs of a first-round draft pick and fined the team $150,000 for player recruitment violations.
A former player had told OHL investigators the IceDogs had a secret “side deal” to pay him $10,000 for each of the four years he played for the team, but the IceDogs had reneged on the agreement.
The Burkes took the league to court seeking an interim injunction that would have stayed the disciplinary proceeding until a dispute between the team and the former player was arbitrated. Superior Court Justice James Ramsay denied the request.
The team also appealed the penalties to the league’s board of governors, which resulted in OHL reducing the fine from $250,000 and restoring one of the two first-round picks the team had been docked.
The team acknowledged violating the league’s player recruitment rules as part of the settlement.
FACT: The investigation is going to confirm all the allegations mentioned above (and several others) to be true. There is no hiding (or deleting) what the investigation will uncover.
The dark cloud over the organization will only get darker. What punishment will be levied to DD and the organization? Financial? 2025 1st round pick? What are the long-term consequences? Severed relationships with player agents, players, parents and staff? Recruitment issues? Dwindling fan base?
#playoff buzz-kill
The dark cloud over the organization will only get darker. What punishment will be levied to DD and the organization? Financial? 2025 1st round pick? What are the long-term consequences? Severed relationships with player agents, players, parents and staff? Recruitment issues? Dwindling fan base?
#playoff buzz-kill
If it's obvious to me, then surely the OHL has to see the damage that has been done to one of their franchises. Anything short of taking back the franchise is an insult to the rest of the league, the players, parents, agents and fans. The OHL failed in its oversight role to properly recruit, vet and monitor the new owner. Appointing a babysitter should be mandatory for any new franchisee, to ensure the culture and values of the OHL are upheld. As much as punishing the errant owner is required, the OHL has to hold a mirror up to their own actions or inaction. There were too many signs the team was in trouble and it's only now that they are investigating?
I hope they compel him to sell the team, or at least the controlling interest. Its past time. Two strikes and he should be out.
As you say, its only going to get worse.
p.s. glad the board is back up. I used to administer servers and websites. I know how stressful it is when a site/server goes down hard.
No. I was just giving the benefit of the doubt. I purposely discount Internet rumours without actual evidence. Several times I said I don't work there and I don't know what is happening myself.
I defended a bunch of trades and some drafting. I criticized the cost cutting. Mocked it actually.
Regardless .... Go Dogs. Lets get some points this weekend.
Yes, you can save the ticket to your Apple or Google wallet and then they can scan the ticket from your phone.
The league must be thorough in it's investigation & if the Icedogs are found negligent, must levy a fine which makes continued ownership 'painful' for current management. Given the known, recent internal struggles with many levels within the organization, the beyond frugal financial tone evident everywhere, it is safe to say the franchise is in a dire state. How the OHL cannot see a way to help in a transition is perplexing.
I guess you believe now... Or will you await the final report from the league?
A major news outlet article is enough proof for me. Also the OHL sent in a person to supervise/counsel or something. Clearly something rotten happened or they would not be announcing that.
Flores played great last night. He was on fire too. Good game.
Not happy about the undisciplined penalties or the nonsense at the end of the game though.
Decent number of tickets sold for todays game. Go Dogs!
In addition to Spence getting under the skin of Flores all season; Roobroek I think, received a cheap shot and Levin was getting pummelled after the final buzzer. While unsportsman like, the IceDogs probably just really wanted to irate the otters without suspensions.
The accurate account of the events that transpired at the end of the game events:
Roobroeck did not receive a cheap shot, Crete slashed the goalies glove after the final horn; immediately accosted in the corner by several Erie players and Levin and the Holomega took one simultaneous shot at each other before Levin skated away from him.
If this is a thorough investigation, and no reason to believe it will not be, it will uncover even much more (tip of the iceberg) and you can trust me on that. DE totally agree with you on the play of Flores! He was outstanding. There is just no way he doesn't get some type of pro contract at the end of the season. And the post-win nonsense has to stop. Celebrate the win with your team. One of the most immature IceDogs, Brauti, was again the ring-leader with an idiotic stick-tapping of the Erie centre ice logo. They’ve won only 2 of their last 18 games and both times their post-game behaviour was a little odd, undisciplined and slightly embarrassing. However, last night, the newly OHL appointed IceDogs Director of Daily Operations and Culture (Brodie Barrack) was in attendance to take notes.
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