Nhlpa 2023 24 Player Poll Unveiled

[Machinehead]

They don’t, it’s been well established.

Hockey players are too busy training , playing games, traveling , and slaying bunnies to pay attention to this shit like us losers

Last night Vesey admitted he’s paying close attention to the playoff race around the league and that the rest of the team makes fun of him for it

That's why I hate things like this.

Some goober is gonna bookmark this and when I say something he doesn't like, he's gonna be like "akhchooally the 'experts' disagree with you."

I don't care.

I analyze this game every day. When's the last time you think one of the players actually sat down and took a good look at what's happening beyond their own team? Probably never?

 

[MNRube]

Super boring questions

 

[Buck Naked]

carey price has only been ltir retired for 2 seasons now.

Duh.

 

[PB37]

That's why I hate things like this.

Some goober is gonna bookmark this and when I say something he doesn't like, he's gonna be like "akhchooally the 'experts' disagree with you."

I don't care.

I analyze this game every day. When's the last time you think one of the players actually sat down and took a good look at what's happening beyond their own team? Probably never?

Before every game. Teams will have video sessions breaking down their next opponent and what to expect - tendencies of players, how the opposing teams like to transition up the ice, where the other goalie tends to let in the most goals, etc etc.

 

[tfwnogf]

Matthews just can't compete with WILLY STYLES

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

9.48% read “your” instead of “their”

 

[Machinehead]

Before every game. Teams will have video sessions breaking down their next opponent and what to expect - tendencies of players, how the opposing teams like to transition up the ice, where the other goalie tends to let in the most goals, etc etc.

Yeah, for their game that night.

79 games a year, they wouldn't notice if you hopped around on one leg.

I'm not throwing shade. They're entrenched in what happens in games against their team. That's what they get paid to do.

It's also a horrible sample to draw analysis from, and their opinions shouldn't be treated as sacrosanct.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

https://www.nhlpa.com/player-poll/2023-24

Any surprises? Snubs?

Ya, why Italy?

Shocked that 10% (#3 in the poll) think that Matthews has style.

That’s the least shocking thing to me. Some players try and have taste, but they are few. Matthews tries, and dudes just assume it’s good. It isn’t.

 

[PB37]

Yeah, for their game that night.

79 games a year, they wouldn't notice if you hopped around on one leg.

I'm not throwing shade. They're entrenched in what happens in games against their team. That's what they get paid to do.

It's also a horrible sample to draw analysis from, and their opinions shouldn't be treated as sacrosanct.

Their opinions on opposing players carry no more or less weight than media or fan opinions unless specific questions like " who's hardest to play against ".

But to say they don't pay attention to what's going on around the league is widely inaccurate. Are they sitting down and analyzing flow charts from Natural Stat Trick? Probably not. That's the analytic department's job and they filer that down to the video coaches, who filter it down to the bench coaches, who then filter it down to the players. But I know for a fact they watch other team's games and use their own experience and perspective as a hockey player to analyze the game on a level fans that have never played simply can't.

 

[ES]

I just wonder how much the games against each other affect their choices. For example McDavid has just one point in three games against Dallas Stars this year. How many Stars players think McDavid is the forward to have in the key game?

 

[VivaLasVegas]

9.48% of NHLers don’t know their own end from a hole in the ground.

But which happens to be about 10,000 times what fans actually know, as opposed to what they think they know.

 

[digmor crusher]

Only thing the Leaf muffins won was best dressed, sounds about right. Shows what the players actually think about these clowns. Time to buy another purse boys.

 

[JoVel]

Ya, why Italy?

Good food, and nice weather if you go early enough. Why not?

I think the better question would be why on earth would these players want to go to f***ing Sweden or England during the season.

I really want to see all the answers for this specific question though.

 

[JoVel]

That's why I hate things like this.

Some goober is gonna bookmark this and when I say something he doesn't like, he's gonna be like "akhchooally the 'experts' disagree with you."

I don't care.

I analyze this game every day. When's the last time you think one of the players actually sat down and took a good look at what's happening beyond their own team? Probably never?

I genuinely believe these polls would be more accurate if you applied all the answers to the season two years prior.

 

[Machinehead]

I genuinely believe these polls would be more accurate if you applied all the answers to the season two years prior.

Yeah, this is accurate.

I feel like a lot of these choices are "hey I really remember this guy being a pain in the ass" and that game was two years ago.

 

[crosby87]

crosby at 36(almost 37) is still all over the polls pretty impressive

 

[Sports2]

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but reading some of the observations and thoughts in this thread- I wonder how much players feel a certain pressure to answer the “right” way. I mean, coming from the NHLPA, its basically like filling out a survey at work. I wonder how much of an old boys club it is and if players feel like they could be ostracized for not “showing respect” to the right people and towing the company line.

 

[BonMorrison]

They don’t, it’s been well established.

Hockey players are too busy training , playing games, traveling , and slaying bunnies to pay attention to this shit like us losers

Last night Vesey admitted he’s paying close attention to the playoff race around the league and that the rest of the team makes fun of him for it

The "only people who play THE GAME know better" crowd get so offended when this is pointed out. Athletes only look at the game coming up for them not everywhere else. It's work for them, they go home and watch highlights but they're not geeks like us.

Except for Mark Scheifele.

 

[Lshap]

Jeff Blair, a baseball reporter for Sportsnet radio in Toronto, used to work as the PR guy for the Montreal Expos. As such, he was responsible for handing out media polls and such l to the players and collecting their results. He has commented in the past that some players seemed very thoughtful about their answers while some seemed to just be scribbling down the first name they thought of. Still others would just throw it away. So, there's always questions about these kinds of polls and their results.

Opinion polls are just that – opinions. Some will be more informed/thoughtful than others.

It's easy to pick holes in a players poll, but let's be clear about these results: These guys play each other face to face. Even their most limited contact includes inside info from coaches, staff and other players.

Being an informed fan makes us an informed customer. Let's not pretend we know more about the employees than the employees themselves.

 

[Chainshot]

Sorokin finishing 3rd in the very first category has me questioning how much NHLers are actually paying attention on a season to season basis

They're not.