NHL trade deadline thread (2025)
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Jim Bob
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I don't get how playing with injury data helps ticket sales. I think being above board and transparent actually generates talk and interest and ticket sales more than it hurts it.
I was thinking the other way round... for example; if Tage goes out for an extended injury, does that move someone to skip buying a ticket if their favorite player is on the shelf for a month?I don't get how playing with injury data helps ticket sales. I think being above board and transparent actually generates talk and interest and ticket sales more than it hurts it.
I agree with your premise on other teams targeting them. that kind of shit gets around quickly.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
The length a player is out is at best an educated guess in the NFL and the NHL when it comes to the short to medium term injuries.
There is some injury information that teams hold back. Like the Bills not talking about Cooper's wrist injury being bad enough that the team doctors wanted to operate and Cooper wanted to play through it. Or, not being completely transparent about how badly Josh's left hand was after the TD leap vs Arizona.
But this situation is an easy one. Everyone knows it is a foot due to a blocked shot and that there is a question of a bruise vs a break. I don't get the downside of being clear about it. You know other GMs will want all the medicals before they make a trade.
And the ticket sales stuff affects the minority of injuries to a minority of players on a minority of teams.
Ticket sales to Leafs games aren't being impacted by an injury to their 6th D, for instance.
ValJamesDuex
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I mean, that is fine on players like Cozens, Peterka, Quinn, Tuch, and Byram. Don't take futures.
But on expiring players like Zucker and Greenway, if you can't sign them, you take the assets.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
If you just want the Sabres segment without searching through the 2 hour long pod.
NFL does that for their betting line. If the mafia moved more money in Vegas regarding hockey gambling, they would get more specific.
HOOats
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This just seems like normal, sound negotiating through the media. We're open to significant moves but we're not taking futures as key returns. We'll hold our best pieces if we don't get offers we like. Adams can't force contending teams to offer win-now pieces in return for the same.
I'm holding out hope for another Mitts/Byram trade, in terms of significance and getting a win. Hopefully it involves Samuelsson or Quinn. Sell Zucker/Greenway if they won't re-sign. And of course sell Joki for whatever.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Given as how the NHL has gotten more and more involved in various betting platforms, there should be some of that pressure already.
Plus, this is another way to lean into the fact the NHL is a sports-entertainment business. It is more entertaining for more fans if they are more transparent.
Just look at how big a story it was with CapFriendly being purchased and being taken offline for fans. Fans want this information.
But, what do I know...
We saw the league reaction to CapFriendly being purchased and their archaic approach to it. Displeasure that fans want that information, disregard for the high level of online following for their game. They're stuck in a very old model of their own league, trying to be clandestine about injury, suspensions, and payroll like it's the end of the Ziegler era.
Jim Bob
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MOGlLNY
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to say today has been a dark day in Sabreland has been an understatement. Jesus the hits just keep coming since Friedman dropped his pod.
Jim Bob
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Taro Tsujimoto
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NHL trades we'd like to see before the deadline: Rantanen moves again, UHC takes big swing
How many more blockbusters will take place before 3 p.m. Friday? Here are six deals we'd love to see.
Two proposals in here that involve the Sabres. Both are three teamers in which the Sabres take on 25% of someone's salary (among other things.
Minnesota Wild get:
C Brock Nelson (at 25% of salary)
New York Islanders get:
2026 first-round pick, RW Charlie Stramel, 2026 fifth-round pick, retain 50% of Nelson's salary
Buffalo Sabres get:
2026 third-round pick, retain 25% of Nelson's salary
Tampa Bay Lightning get:
C Yanni Gourde, RW JJ Peterka
Seattle Kraken get:
LW/RW Cam Atkinson, 2026 third-round pick, retain 50% of Gourde's salary
Buffalo Sabres get:
2026 first-round pick (from TB, unprotected), 2025 second-round pick (LA), C Gage Goncalves, D Nick Perbix, retain 25% of Gourde's salary
Zman5778
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Yep. That's exactly what/where we are. Stuck. By and large -- the teams that want what we have are already contenders and want to only give us futures in exchange for our younger NHL players. They're not going to want to make a "hockey deal". Any team that would make a hockey deal with us would have to be in our same situation: basically out of the playoff race and looking to re-tool some.
Problem 1: The East has been so so so bad this year that we're LITERALLY the only team truly out of it. MAYBE the Pens are out of it and will be sellers -- but do we want anything they'd be selling? Probably not
Problem 2: The ~5 teams out of it in the West don't really have a whole lot that they'd give up for a retool. Anaheim might swap Zegras....but wouldn't that be more of the same? Seattle has 2 categories of players: nailed down with NTCs or stuff we're not interested in. The Predators are semi-interesting. ROR doesn't have an NTC, but would we go there again? Sissons would be nice....as a 4C? The corpse of Schenn as another 3rd pairing RHD? Blankenburg is intriguing. Chicago and San Jose are kind of like Seattle, but they have less NTCs and even less that is interesting.
So of the teams that are out of it......Zegras as a struggle-for-struggle swap? Blankenburg as a "hope he can round into a 2nd pair D" guy?
I suppose the other option is to make a deal like last year: deal something from our strength for someone else's strength. Question is -- what the holy hell is our strength? Puck moving LHD? OK, fine. So we're basically looking to reverse the Byram-for-Mitts swap. So.....what team out there needs Power or Byram and has a legit two-way C to spare? Not a whole helluva lot. We've got some high-offense spare wingers.....maybe?
Yeah. Adams has us completely and utterly stuck.
sabremike
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MOAR PROSPECTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NHL trades we'd like to see before the deadline: Rantanen moves again, UHC takes big swing
How many more blockbusters will take place before 3 p.m. Friday? Here are six deals we'd love to see.www.espn.com
Two proposals in here that involve the Sabres. Both are three teamers in which the Sabres take on 25% of someone's salary (among other things.
We are nothing but the toilet of the league that only exists for the "real" teams to shit on and exploit.
At least get in the cap retention broker line and recoup SOMETHING.
Granted, that will cost real dollars so... yeah.
Granted, that will cost real dollars so... yeah.
Ace
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This is what happens when you consistently fail to build your roster in the offseason. You hit trade deadlines way out of contention needing to make the moves you didn’t…at a time they can’t be made.
Problem is…he’s done this EVERY offseason.
Bigger problem is…he will do it again in his sixth offseason
They might be desperate enough sitting in last place with zero goodwill from the fanbase to retain on something for the first time in five years.
Costs a bit…but might be the only thing they can even do that comes with a “f***ing finally!” from fans and lets the dumbest ones say. “Told you there were no financial restrictions!” before they spend to the floor next year
Problem is…he’s done this EVERY offseason.
Bigger problem is…he will do it again in his sixth offseason
They might be desperate enough sitting in last place with zero goodwill from the fanbase to retain on something for the first time in five years.
Costs a bit…but might be the only thing they can even do that comes with a “f***ing finally!” from fans and lets the dumbest ones say. “Told you there were no financial restrictions!” before they spend to the floor next year
Zman5778
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I'll believe we're a cap retention broker when I see it. We've been in that position for YEARS and haven't done a damned thing.
Beerz
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NHL trades we'd like to see before the deadline: Rantanen moves again, UHC takes big swing
How many more blockbusters will take place before 3 p.m. Friday? Here are six deals we'd love to see.
Two proposals in here that involve the Sabres. Both are three teamers in which the Sabres take on 25% of someone's salary (among other things.
Lol.. That Tampa trade.... f*** the other teams... we want Tampa to win
Fjordsen
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I remember Baker and Fairburn talking about Rust from Pens earlier, if we wanted him as a vet in RW? But probably not until the summer when he is not under the no-trade clause. Not sure about Bunting.
I think some western teams are good trading partners.
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