NHL Team Rankings #4

[Edgelord]

lmao. Your lines goes to show you how little you know about the Panthers. The Panthers are arguably the deepest team in the league up front, our D core is better, and we were an over .610 with Bob in net last season. Toronto is not the better team.

You didn't get to play os, but once the season starts and you play us, reality will hit you as the goal light gets lit lol

 

[Boreal01]

Islanders

More talented players and more depth at every position compared to Florida

 

[Edgelord]

Also its unfair to vote FLA this high, it will give them unrealistic expectations and they will fee
l bad when the Leafs stomp em lol

 

[pb1300]

don't matter, put together any line combo's you want, our top 9 >> your top 9

lmao OK bud. FYI Hornqvist is our 4th liner.

 

[JohnLennon]

Umm nooooo, the Leafs were the better team and had Marner+Matthews not run out of puck luck it was an easy win for the Leafs.

When you blame losing a series to "luck" you definitely lost. If you watched Game 6 and 7 in particular, Habs were assuredly the better team.

Sure we lost Hyman but we got Ritchie and Bunting, I call it a wash, plus we added Kase. If he stays healthy we are a better team.
Not too mention we won't have Anderson's sub .900 goal tending.
Everyone is soo quick to forget how utterly dominant we were against any other team in the North last year. Habs only beat us in a luck contest (O.T)

Instead of Andersen's sub-par goaltending, you'll have a goalie who has never been a full-time starter before. That's not exactly encouraging. Ritchie is a massive downgrade from Hyman, Kase is ok, but not sure both of them fill the hole that Hyman leaves.

Leafs were dominant in a short season, let's see how it plays out over the long run. They got beat by the Habs three elimination games in a row, they only needed one damn win, so people being skeptical of this team are definitely being reasonable. Lots to doubt. I'd still take Habs over Leafs.

 

[pb1300]

Also its unfair to vote FLA this high, it will give them unrealistic expectations and they will fee
l bad when the Leafs stomp em lol

Shit responses when nobody has anything relevant to say.

 

[JohnLennon]

I already said I don’t think the Leafs are far from this group and liked the depth they added in the cheap this off-season but the amount of expectation I am seeing for Michael Bunting, Nick Ritchie and Ondrej Kase is getting pretty silly.

Bunting is a guy who went from an unremarkable older prospect to a guy with a short hot stretch who the Coyotes didn’t even bother keeping even though he’s cheap.

Ritchie is a perpetual tease who lacks intelligence and consistent effort and is purely a PP net guy - apparently he is going to keep tricking new fanbases into thinking he has the potential to be something more.

Kase has played like 30 games in two years and is coming off multiple concussions.

All together I think they are good cheap pickups for a team searching for depth at a low cost but none of them should be figuring heavily into arguments on why a team should be top 5 or not in the league.

Yeah, the fact people are even mentioning Michael Bunting is pretty damning for the Leafs IMO. Like, come on. That's like Habs fans getting hyping up Chris Wideman, lmao

 

[Edgelord]

When you blame losing a series to "luck" you definitely lost. If you watched Game 6 and 7 in particular, Habs were assuredly the better team.

Instead of Andersen's sub-par goaltending, you'll have a goalie who has never been a full-time starter before. That's not exactly encouraging. Ritchie is a massive downgrade from Hyman, Kase is ok, but not sure both of them fill the hole that Hyman leaves.

Leafs were dominant in a short season, let's see how it plays out over the long run. They got beat by the Habs three elimination games in a row, they only needed one damn win, so people being skeptical of this team are definitely being reasonable. Lots to doubt. I'd still take Habs over Leafs.

When you factor in that the Leafs are cursed in the play offs then obv you take ANY other club. At some point the curse will end.

 

[MardyBum]

Islanders, then probably Carolina and Boston for me.

Florida has talent and are deep, but goaltending questions. Hopefully Bob plays better so they don't have to entirely rely on Knight who's still so GD young for a goalie.

 

[pb1300]

Islanders

More talented players and more depth at every position compared to Florida

Curious to where they are more talented at every position. The Islanders are top 5 IMO, but they are head and shoulders above the Panthers, as you make it seem.

Florida has a top 5 center on one line, a top 5 LWer on another, and they have multiple 20+ goal scorers on 3 lines. Panthers are deeper at forward.

 

[JohnLennon]

When you factor in that the Leafs are cursed in the play offs then obv you take ANY other club. At some point the curse will end.

Fair enough

 

[Snippit]

Why is Colorado ahead of Vegas?

 

[Murzu]

Florida, NYI and Canes

 

[Edgelord]

Curious to where they are more talented at every position. The Islanders are top 5 IMO, but they are head and shoulders above the Panthers, as you make it seem.

Florida has a top 5 center on one line, a top 5 LWer on another, and they have multiple 20+ goal scorers on 3 lines. Panthers are deeper at forward.

no doubt they are deep but how do they beat Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I voted Florida. NYI are definitely much more proven, but I think Florida's top talent makes them a better team. It'll all depend on the goaltending this year though.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Canes, Isles, then Panthers imo

 

[Xspyrit]

The NYI get no respect, probably because they have no superstar marquee player. Yet they've been a top team for the last three/four years or so. Florida had a nice season, but hasn't proven anything. The Islanders have.

What do you mean by that? They're about to get voted as the 4th best team in the whole NHL

Isn't respect?

Florida? I can't see them finishing above the Leafs in the Atlantic.
This really should be the Leafs but we all know how HF goes. Hell I bet the wonderful HF hive mind has them as a bubble team.
They got unlucky against the Habs.

And the 16 years prior?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Sure we lost Hyman but we got Ritchie and Bunting, I call it a wash, plus we added Kase. If he stays healthy we are a better team.
Not too mention we won't have Anderson's sub .900 goal tending.
Everyone is soo quick to forget how utterly dominant we were against any other team in the North last year. Habs only beat us in a luck contest (O.T)

And the bolded is exactly why every summer some Leaf fans predict huge amounts of success, but every playoffs they fail to meet those expectations. Because there's this tendency to think every new acquisition is as good or better than the player leaving, even when there's no evidence to suggest that's the case.

"We traded Marner to clear cap space, but that's okay because between Kase and rookie Robertson they'll easily match Marner's point production. So I think it's a wash."

If you're expecting Ritchie to do the same stuff that Hyman did for that top line, you're in for a really rude awakening.

 

[Edgelord]

And the bolded is exactly why every summer some Leaf fans predict huge amounts of success, but every playoffs they fail to meet those expectations. Because there's this tendency to think every new acquisition is as good or better than the player leaving, even when there's no evidence to suggest that's the case.

"We traded Marner to clear cap space, but that's okay because between Kase and rookie Robertson they'll easily match Marner's point production. So I think it's a wash."

If you're expecting Ritchie to do the same stuff that Hyman did for that top line, you're in for a really rude awakening.

nope, just need him to legit go into a corner or 2 and stand in front of the net

 

[raymond23]

Definitely not Florida. I have them in the 20s.

 

[pb1300]

no doubt they are deep but how do they beat Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares?

Are those four suppose to scare anyone?

Verhaeghe - Barkov - Reinhart
Huberdeau - Bennett - Duclair
Vatrano - Lundell - Tippett
Marchment - Acciari - Hornqvist

Lomberg
Mamin
Denisenko
Thornton

Thats how beat them. We are better coached, we are deeper up front, deeper on the blueline, and we both have question marks in net.

 

[Lshap]

What do you mean by that? They're about to get voted as the 4th best team in the whole NHL

Isn't respect?

Florida was ahead of NYI when I voted.

 

[BKarchitect]

Are those four suppose to scare anyone?

Verhaeghe - Barkov - Reinhart
Huberdeau - Bennett - Duclair
Vatrano - Lundell - Tippett
Marchment - Acciari - Hornqvist

Lomberg
Mamin
Denisenko
Thornton

Thats how beat them. We are better coached, we are deeper up front, deeper on the blueline, and we both have question marks in net.

I mean those four Leafs players are pretty scary (when it’s not the playoffs). What isn’t scaring anybody is Nick Ritchie and Michael Bunting as your top two LWers and Kerfoot anchoring a championship quality third line.

 

[pb1300]

I mean those four Leafs players are pretty scary (when it’s not the playoffs). What isn’t scaring anybody is Nick Ritchie and Michael Bunting as your top two LWers and Kerfoot anchoring a championship quality third line.

I love Matthews, even though I hate the Leafs. Im not taking away from how great of a goal scorer he is, or how great of a creator Marner is, but Florida has goal scorers everywhere, and one of the best set up wingers in the game in Huberdeau, like Marner. And yes, those four are good, but that doesnt change the fact that the Panthers are deeper up front, and that the difference in talent between the teams top 4 forwards is not wider than the difference in depth.

 

[BKarchitect]

I love Matthews, even though I hate the Leafs. Im not taking away from how great of a goal scorer he is, or how great of a creator Marner is, but Florida has goal scorers everywhere, and one of the best set up wingers in the game in Huberdeau, like Marner. And yes, those four are good, but that doesnt change the fact that the Panthers are deeper up front, and that the difference in talent between the teams top 4 forwards is not wider than the difference in depth.

Agreed 100%. I do think any team with the core four the Leafs have has to be taken seriously. But the depth after that is very “meh” at best. Lots of limited players who are probably ok at very specific tasks that you are going to have to shuffle into the correct spots. Keefe is going to really earn his salary this year if he can get that team over the hump. The Panthers are rolling potentially four impressive lines. Having Barkov and Huberdeau both able to anchor their own ES line is so useful.