League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2023-24 Regular Season Edition

[CapitalsCupReality]

Always attack the “witness” first to discredit….pretty standard…much harder to address the points. He could play the game a little too.

 

[kicksavedave]

So you don't know anything about Nilan. Cool.

Nor did you read what he actually said, because your mockery is the opposite of his comments.

Whatever.

Nonsense. I read it all. He offered half a defense for the deterrent factor, and as I've said, beating a guy up after he chicken wings your dude and the refs miss the call, is barely any revenge or policing at all. It's purely emotional. He's just offering justification for his role, even though his role no longer exists...because it's no longer needed. He's clearly also not making a case that we go back to the 70s era of fighting.

 

[g00n]

Always attack the “witness” first to discredit….pretty standard…much harder to address the points.

Nilan basically said what we all said, anyway: don't ban fighting, you can't prove a direct link to suicide, the cheap shots and head hits are the biggest factor by far.

The only thing mildly controversial might be his opinion on players policing themselves which is not just his own opinion but pretty much canon among players, which is the set of opinions that matter because they're the ones who either respect it or not.

10 years ago, many other players and officials said the same thing Nilan said:

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-safer-with-fighting-players-say-1.2416907

You can't just look at penalty numbers and assess the impact or value of fighting in the game. It's not a direct relationship, and you can't prove the existence of something that DOESN'T happen (the avoided cheaper shot). So you have to listen to the guys who actually do it for a living.

 

[Devil Dancer]

NHL fighting got particularly dumb when the league started mandating players wear helmets with visors. How many punches even land on skin these days?

 

[Calicaps]

Meanwhile... back in live action... Wings-Isles. Boo. Hope they both lose.

 

[usiel]

These Oilers alt jersey are god awful.

 

[stephenball]

The Preds are just crazy these days.

 

[SherVaughn30]

No help for the Caps tonight...

 

[PlushMinus]

The Preds are just crazy these days.

It's all because they were playing so badly the front office "punished" them by not letting them go on a team trip to see U2.

I would also reward my employer by being much better at my job if they prevented me from seeing U2 - cos they suck.

(To clarify: they have sucked for about 30 years now. If they'd stopped in 1993 that would have been fine with me)

 

[TheSmokingMan]

No help for the Caps tonight...

I figure, no sense in scoreboard watching. This is the Caps we're talking about... not much luck going to fall our way. Have to win at least 9 of the remaining games I think.

 

[trick9]

Brutal scoreboard day.

Further from the Playoffs, closer to the no-man's land.

 

[895]

This board is so clique-ish and that's partly why I barely post anymore (the other reason being the caps suck ofc).

You can always tell which posters will agree with which posters, no matter now wrong or deranged they are.

 

[Hivemind]

This board is so clique-ish and that's partly why I barely post anymore (the other reason being the caps suck ofc).

You can always tell which posters will agree with which posters, no matter now wrong or deranged they are.

Am I supposed to like this post or fight you? Which clique do you belong to?

 

[usiel]

This board is so clique-ish and that's partly why I barely post anymore (the other reason being the caps suck ofc).

You can always tell which posters will agree with which posters, no matter now wrong or deranged they are.

I mean there are some long time posters that have been interacting with each other long time. And because of all that time it comes pretty clear which ones that generally align with you.

 

[DWGie26]

This board is so clique-ish and that's partly why I barely post anymore (the other reason being the caps suck ofc).

You can always tell which posters will agree with which posters, no matter now wrong or deranged they are.

You mean like the smart people agree with smart people. And the dummies agree with the dummies? Haha.

I’m not sure which category I am in. Get likes and flames from all!

 

[Acallabeth]

This board is so clique-ish and that's partly why I barely post anymore (the other reason being the caps suck ofc).

You can always tell which posters will agree with which posters, no matter now wrong or deranged they are.

I mean, it sometimes looks like people are more interested in discussing each other than hockey, and the mods permit it

 

[Hivemind]

I mean, it sometimes looks like people are more interested in discussing each other than hockey, and the mods permit it

Some of the folks guilty of this are former mods themselves.

(I also realize the irony in that this comment is also guilty of discussing other posters rather than hockey )

 

[usiel]

Some of the folks guilty of this are former mods themselves.

(I also realize the irony in that this comment is also guilty of discussing other posters rather than hockey )

I mean this is going to happen it is just human nature.

Admittedly, and traditionally, the mods for this forum give a little room when it comes to some venting between posters before it goes into full personal attack mode which will be addressed immediately. I believe most realize keep it light in that area. And to be honest getting bent of shape for someone posting in a forum seems like a waste in psychic energy (as I age).

 

[Ridley Simon]

I don’t see it as being “cliquey” here. It’s not high school.

As @usiel points out, some people have been on this board a LONG time. Heck, it’s probably been around 25+ years for me (which is crazy), so there are some posters I’ve gotten to know well. Like most long term relationships, you will quarrel with people over time. And disagree. And even fight.

But most in here I respect regardless of that. To me that’s what it’s about. Respect.

There’s only poster on here that I don’t respect, and that’s the one poster I’ve had to put on ignore. IMO that’s what that function means to me (I respect you so little, that I simply will not hear you). And why I wouldn’t use it cavalierly.

There will always be people that you connect with more than an others. And will side with. But it’s certainly not uniform.

 

[usiel]

I don’t see it as being “cliquey” here. It’s not high school.

As @usiel points out, some people have been on this board a LONG time. Heck, it’s probably been around 25+ years for me (which is crazy), so there are some posters I’ve gotten to know well. Like most long term relationships, you will quarrel with people over time. And disagree. And even fight.

But most in here I respect regardless of that. To me that’s what it’s about. Respect.

There’s only poster on here that I don’t respect, and that’s the one poster I’ve had to put on ignore. IMO that’s what that function means to me (I respect you so little, that I simply will not hear you). And why I wouldn’t use it cavalierly.

There will always be people that you connect with more than an others. And will side with. But it’s certainly not uniform.

Look at the joined dates. And that is not even accurate since some of us OGs were around in the previous version HFboards that didn't carry over a joined date.

Have to say how much a site that was for mostly NHL draftniks was just an amazing discovery at the time.

 

[g00n]

Some of the folks guilty of this are former mods themselves.

(I also realize the irony in that this comment is also guilty of discussing other posters rather than hockey )

Passive-aggressive shitposting is still shitposting. Just with less courage.

 

[BallardEra]

Jets playing like the Leafs did against the Flyers before playing the Caps.

 

[Calicaps]

Look at the joined dates. And that is not even accurate since some of us OGs were around in the previous version HFboards that didn't carry over a joined date.

Have to say how much a site that was for mostly NHL draftniks was just an amazing discovery at the time.

and many of us communicated on other forums before hf... official boards? sparrows icq?

 

[BallardEra]

So Caps will get a pissed off Jets team tomorrow.

 

[Empty Goal Net]

So Caps will get a pissed off Jets team tomorrow.

It certainly looks that way.