NHL should change rules for offer sheet compensation

[qcal1427]

But the rules in place make it generally difficult and prohibitive for teams to actually make offers to players... so the result is that players don't really have this as a serious tool to influence their salary negotiations with their current team.

I mean ... yes. The CBA is set up (and agreed to by the PA!) in a way that players are generally under-compensated during the first half of their career and over-compensated during their second half. I personally think that this is about the perfect mix between team control and player agency. You get some of the exciting player movement and roster turnover as the NFL/NBA/European Soccer. At the same time, fans are able to build deeper connections to players on their teams, bad/small market teams have more leeway to turn the ship around, and the decisions that FOs make have more meaning as it's a little harder to change mistakes.

The OS works great in this system as a last resort option for both teams and players. If you really can't come to an agreement on a trade or in a salary negotiation, there are some standardized compensations. If you want the OS to be more player-friendly in the current situation, remember that to get you have to give. The PA could take this to Bettman in the CBA negotiations, but they probably have to give something back up in return (max contract length down to 6 years, more regular season games, etc.).

If you want a whole new system, go for it. Get rid of the draft, RFA status, the salary cap, everything. I take a look at the NBA, MLB, and Euro Soccer in particular though and think that's probably not the route I want to go down.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

They should just change it to UFA status once the third contract approaches.

Teams get the ELC, the second contract and that's it.

 

[StreetHawk]

That wasn't something I was trying to fix. All I was trying to say is if a bad team signs someone to an offer sheet and owes the other team a 1st round pick in compensation, they shouldn't be allowed to acquire a lower 1st round pick at the TDL and use it to satisfy their obligation. I agree with you that there needs to be more rules about having the necessary picks, and what to do if a team trades down in a round, and all sorts of other things.

If the nhl allows teams to trade up and get a pick in the 28-32 range for example to use as the compensation, then the clubs with cap room which would be the weaker clubs would be more willing to make an OS as they can trade up and not risk a top 5 or 10 pick.
But would then incentivize the current team to match the offer.
So you ah went done anything really to get player movement.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

You quoted me saying “higher” could be interpreted 2 different ways,

But then used the “highest pick you own in that round”, in a response, so not sure which one you mean.

Higher being (1) 52 OA instead of 42 OA
Or higher being (2) 35 OA instead of 42 OA (as in a better pick)

As my initial response assumed OP meant (2), but it wasn’t clear.

Sorry, I meant earliest/highest/best/whatever you want to call it. If you have both 42 and 52, you give up 42.

 

[majormajor]

It seems to me that the teams that should be able to use offer sheets the most (rebuilding squads) are very discouraged from it. Their pick value is worth several times that of a team drafting #30, #62, and so on. There should be a way to approximate an equivalent value and use that instead.

I agree with the OP suggestions.

 

[Voight]

All should become ufas at 23

This would negatively impact a lot of the small market teams.

 

[StreetHawk]

It seems to me that the teams that should be able to use offer sheets the most (rebuilding squads) are very discouraged from it. Their pick value is worth several times that of a team drafting #30, #62, and so on. There should be a way to approximate an equivalent value and use that instead.

I agree with the OP suggestions.

Only so many top 5 picks end up better than someone you could OS.

I can get the change to remove the 5 year denominator and just go AAV with an adjustment to the thresholds to compensate. Montreal when they OS Aho kept it at 5 years. Blues kept it to 2 years for Broberg and Holloway and Car did a 1 year for KK with the intention of signing him for term at a lower cap hit afterwards.

But allowing any pick in the same round to be transferred would likely work against teams making an OS if the comp contains a first rounder.

 

[tarheelhockey]

A Canes fan wanting more offer sheets?

Masochist.

 

[Ace]

I’d like an acknowledgment that considering every pick in the first round as equal is absolutely asinine. The teams that have the space and NEED to upgrade talents pick too high to consider it. The best teams know they’ll be good and be giving up far less…but don’t have the cap space.

It’s stupid.

And, like everything else, benefits the same f***ing teams getting every other benefit.

 

[archangel2]

This would negatively impact a lot of the small market teams.

That is the way we are heading. Some predictions say it may go down to 25 next cbA

 

[Voight]

That is the way we are heading. Some predictions say it may go down to 25 next cbA

Source? Cause from what ive seen the NHL is looking to expand, not contract.

 

[Golden_Jet]

That is the way we are heading. Some predictions say it may go down to 25 next cbA

It’s already 25 if you start in league at 18, you need 7 years for UFA, I’m not seeing a changes to UFA, nor should there be.

Not sure what the players would give up, to shorten the 7 years for UFA.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

If the nhl allows teams to trade up and get a pick in the 28-32 range for example to use as the compensation, then the clubs with cap room which would be the weaker clubs would be more willing to make an OS as they can trade up and not risk a top 5 or 10 pick.
But would then incentivize the current team to match the offer.
So you ah went done anything really to get player movement.

I can't imagine the team losing the player would want it to be easier and cheaper for the acquiring team.