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I've seen maybe a handful of power forwards in the entire league in the last 10 years.
is there another noesen i don't know about who's not 46 years old? did you read the thread title?
i mean it's about young, up and coming players of a certain style. plenty of people seem to have grokked that. you're correct though that Steven Noesen does not fit the profile.You're really confrontational about a random criterion you created so that it fits Will Cuylle.
what's this?
Isn't Wahlstrom more of a sniper than a powerforward?Does Oliver Wahlstrom count? Technically his birth date makes him 24 but mentally he's not close. If he ever mentally catches up to his physical age the Isles could have quite a player on the hands!
Sad but true.I've seen maybe a handful of power forwards in the entire league in the last 10 years.
Never seen him play. What about him? Who does he compare to? What's his ceiling?Keep an eye on Luke Tuch with the AHL Habs team.
Bottom 6. Play a heavygame. Need to develop his fighting skill since he's a college kid but could become a M.Foligno typeI've been waiting for a Cuylle thread, took longer than expected.
Talk about the Rangers did well here considering we drafted a bust 7th overall then we traded him for the pick which we used to draft Cuylle.
Isn't Wahlstrom more of a sniper than a powerforward?
Sad but true.
Never seen him play. What about him? Who does he compare to? What's his ceiling?
Do any of them drop the gloves,
Best PF usually has skill, hits and fights
But “modern” power forward, seems doesn’t include the fighting aspect.
Fantastic thread, I got to learn about an up and coming exciting player; however, not a fan of the Whitecloud reference.For the Rangers, it's Will Cuylle.
This guy has been on a heater to start the season, with 6g 8a and +14 in 17 games. All 14 at even strength, in less than 14min per game. Oh yeah, kid is 6'3 212 and has 72 hits, 6th in the league. How are ya?
The shooting percentage will go down but his overall game is a throwback and he was bringing it last year as well until he hit a late season wall. Didn't hear about him as much as Id expected.
For example I look at a guy like Knies who people have absolutely raved about - i don't think he's that much better if at all than Cuylle. Certainly he's had more opportunity, and he's been on a line with elite producers to pump up his numbers. But when you look at what people says Knies is, a "modern power forward," they're just describing Cuylle's game to a T. plus you'd never see him get blown up like he did by Whitecloud or embarrassed like by Bennett. He's gotten his share of whoopings and he takes his lumps, but never looks so wimpy.
Who's the young buck people don't know about on your team yet who plays with power and physicality? Who are the next generation of this dying breed of player in the NHL?
a power forward doesn't have to play on the wing. even better if you find a center with a power game.Cuylle can drop the gloves I think.
For me the modern power forward doesn't have to include fighting it's more about being big, playing north-south and creating a bunch of space for your teammates.
For the Habs, that would be Slafkovsky. I think Dach could end up being that as well if he stays on the wing.
and soon we can switch the numbers of his age and he is 23 again.Noesen plays that kind of game. Hits hard, scores most of his goals from the crease, doesn’t mind the occasional fight.
the time every team employed one or multiple face puncher is gone. there is no real benefit. if a player can't take regular shifts, the willingness to drop the gloves adds very little value. physical players, the ones with actual hockey skills, are still very valuable. but you don't want your best players risking concussions while fighting plugs.Ya for the new “modern” PF, I would agree.
But I feel it changes the definition of what a PF was known for.
i am a fan of slafkovsky and he is the only habs player i want on my team. but honestly i would hope, that with his concussion history he stays away from the useless fighting.Slafkovsky . I know the regular cast of anti-habs trolls will emerge t refute this, but he's 6'3, 225, has started to use his body and hit and will fight when necessary.
it was power forwards. none of them qualifies.The point? They the best young forwards.
Why does the skill level of an enforcer would matter? A won fight is a won fight, gives momentum to a team no matter who fightsthe time every team employed one or multiple face puncher is gone. there is no real benefit. if a player can't take regular shifts, the willingness to drop the gloves adds very little value. physical players, the ones with actual hockey skills, are still very valuable. but you don't want your best players risking concussions while fighting plugs.
guys are only allowed to fight when on ice. so you have to send them out for regular shifts. and when they challenge other players and those are not interested in a fight, they either don't fight or get an instigator penalty and put their team on the pk. so the fighter hurts the team more than he helpls.Why does the skill level of an enforcer would matter? A won fight is a won fight, gives momentum to a team no matter who fights
is Knies that much better than Cuylle?Cuylle And Knies are the 2 best imo
The best part about him is that he’s out best defensive forward. I don’t know how it happened, but he’s like future Selke contender good I think. Don’t remember one obvious defensive mistake since he came into the league. Meanwhile, Zibanejad, Panarin, Lafreniere cause goals against all the time. Wish they were like Will.Wanted to start a "guy no one knows about on your team that they should" and mention Cuylle. lol
But honestly, I just wanted to brag about Cuylle.
Amazing how badly we screwed up the 7 overall pick but ended up getting good value for the pick we get back, late in the 2nd round.