NHL Players getting Venmo requests from fans that lost bets on the players/teams

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although, you are 100% right. My hobbies do not negatively affect those around me, unlike gambling.
My minor minor gambling impacts no one around me in a negative way. Is everyone like that? No. That could be said about almost any hobby out there though if a person goes overboard not just gambling. So figure it out you pompous hero.
 
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Life is tough man. What if I told you when I grew up, everyone paid in cash and cashiers actually had to know how to do basic math? 🤯
Surely you had a checkbook to balance too.

I solved that problem by virtually never writing checks and just being stubborn about the then-emerging world of electronic transfers until finally society as a whole caught up with me. Absolutely hated those damn things.
 

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The article mentions one player who purportedly got venmo requests.
The article very explicitly mentions multiple players.
Perhaps the biggest revelation from The Athletic’s anonymous player poll was how common the Venmo requests are.

“They’re demands, not requests,” one player clarified. “’You owe me $200 because you were on the ice when …’ and it’s insane. It’s really bad when you play against Toronto because it seems like everybody is betting on Leafs games. But that’s Toronto for you.”

Apparently, NHL players need to do a better job of masking their identities on cash apps.

“Yeah, that’s real,” another player said. “When you ruin a guy’s parlay or something? Hundred percent, that’s real. I got one last game where some guy bet on my number of shots or something and then he’s DM’ing me: ‘You f—ed my parlay!’ Pardon my language, but that’s what he said.”

“Yeah, 100 percent,” said another player. “I’ve gotten plenty of them show up in my inbox before. Like I kept them from hitting some parlay or something or, ‘Here’s my Venmo. Send me $100.'”

“Oh, yeah,” one player said. “People on social media are way crazier now because they have more skin in the game. I think that’s for all sports.”

“I get messages all the time, and these are people probably betting $1.50,” said another.
 
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My minor minor gambling impacts no one around me in a negative way. Is everyone like that? No. That could be said about almost any hobby out there though if a person goes overboard not just gambling. So figure it out you pompous hero.
I get the distinct impression that gambling is more likely than most hobbies to have such an impact, thus the judgemental attitude. That said, just because said restraint isn't as common as we'd like doesn't mean it's functionally nonexistent.

I mean, I wouldn't do it myself, but if you can do so responsibly and it entertains you and you're not harassing folks over it, cool, enjoy, you do you. :thumbu:
but do we have to have all the f***ing ads about it in our faces all the damn time?
 
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“Why don't NHL players make all their accounts private so no one can message them anything?”

Is directly victim blaming. Those are your direct words. What else does this mean? Other than make their account private or get harassed.

Since you really want me to acknowledge the harrassment like some weird fetish, let me rephrase.

"Knowing that their are crazy people out there who will harass people, why would a celebrity not just make their accounts private to avoid dealing with crazy people in the same way every single teacher I know does?"

If teachers realize they gotta do it, maybe celebrities should too?
 
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Honestly ive gambled less ever since it became legal cross the US (for the most part) and Canada. It was more "fun" when you had to use a bookie/third party site based in the Cayman Islands rather than be bothered by the odds, point spread and player props every waking moment. Only a handful of people I knew would bet on sports and you didn't have kids partaking because they had to know someone who knew someone to get involved.
 

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Really parading around on that high horse eh. If I want to put $10 on a Sunday on my account and make a couple football parlays I don’t see how that makes me an idiot. Good for you though at being so intelligent.

“I like throwing money away, I’m not dumb” is how your post will be interpreted to some.

I don’t think the anti-gambling sentiment is people acting intelligently. Mostly just not acting stupid. By all means keep doing your thing. You are entitled to do it. But there is little doubt that the vast majority of gamblers are just lighting money on fire.. it’s silly to those of us who don’t gamble.
 

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Pretty Bad Take.

Having to go to a lotto kiosk is a significant friction to gambling. You think 75% of male 18-24 year olds are standing all day at a lottery stand to do scratches? But they are gambling on their phone, all the time.


Yep. There have been bozos everywhere, all the time. Social media just creates uniquely bad incentives for people to be bozos publicly, and makes it easier to do so.

So there's definitely a lot of validity to your concerns with barriers to action. Legalized gambling has been a thing in many countries for a long time, but the recent switch to phone-app as replacement bookie is demolished inhibition.

For the bolded, I can't find any support for that level of action, it looks like the number ~25%?

For the rest of you boomers eating up this ragebait slop... I dunno honestly it's exactly what I expect of you.

EDIT: and I'm firmly against APP betting, and sports betting in general it ruins people.

EDIT: There's only two sorts of sports betting I approve of, although personally do not partake in:
1. Making a small bet <$100 for season results. it takes away the immediacy of the risk-reward.
2. Going to a horse track and making a day out of being with friends and betting $2 a race.
 

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Since you really want me to acknowledge the harrassment like some weird fetish, let me rephrase.

"Knowing that their are crazy people out there who will harass people, why would a celebrity not just make their accounts private to avoid dealing with crazy people in the same way every single teacher I know does?"

If teachers realize they gotta do it, maybe celebrities should too?
Again you’re saying the same thing that the onus is on the harassed to modify their behaviour to not be harassed and in this particular case its people sending invoices for lost bets, do you see how f***ed up that is?

You also seem weirdly offended that i have this line of thinking, like you accuse me of having some fetish towards harassment for thinking that its out of line for people send invoices to athletes because of lost bets and that the athletes are the ones that need to modify their behaviour. I attacked your words, you attacked me in response.
 

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“I like throwing money away, I’m not dumb” is how your post will be interpreted to some.

I don’t think the anti-gambling sentiment is people acting intelligently. Mostly just not acting stupid. By all means keep doing your thing. You are entitled to do it. But there is little doubt that the vast majority of gamblers are just lighting money on fire.. it’s silly to those of us who don’t gamble.
It’s not that that i care about him throwing his money away, its more that i care about how gambling can affect those around them, like families and communities. I dont care that he wants to throw his money away, but i care about how normalize betting it is and how it infiltrated every aspect of society, we have ads on tv, we have broadcasts dedicating full segments to betting, we have updates during games about odds and props. Some people can’t control themselves and will destroy their families over it.

These ads are telling people people it’s okay to bet on the couch while watching tv with their girlfriend and actively support and enable destructive and addictive behaviours. That’s my issue with gambling and more importantly, my issue with people who gamble is that they dont acknowledge this or think its a problem.
 
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It’s not that that i care about him throwing his money away, its more that i care about how gambling can affect those around them, like families and communities. I dont care that he wants to throw his money away, but i care about how normalize betting it is and how it infiltrated every aspect of society, we have ads on tv, we have broadcasts dedicating full segments to betting, we have updates during games about odds and props. Some people can’t control themselves and will destroy their families over it.

These ads are telling people people it’s okay to bet on the couch while watching tv with their girlfriend and actively support and enable destructive and addictive behaviours. That’s my issue with gambling and more importantly, my issue with people who gamble is that they dont acknowledge this or think its a problem.
It can absolutely be destructive. I don’t like or agree with all the ads either. The only issue I took was you saying everyone that bets in sports is an idiot. If I sit down on a football Sunday and make two $5 parlays to make the games that much more interesting? I fail to see how that would make me an idiot. It’s $10 I can afford and impacts no one. You can’t paint every single person with the same brush. Am I an idiot because I enjoy having a few beer since there are alcoholics who destroy their families? It’s moronic to paint everyone with the same brush no matter what it is.

“I like throwing money away, I’m not dumb” is how your post will be interpreted to some.

I don’t think the anti-gambling sentiment is people acting intelligently. Mostly just not acting stupid. By all means keep doing your thing. You are entitled to do it. But there is little doubt that the vast majority of gamblers are just lighting money on fire.. it’s silly to those of us who don’t gamble.
That’s fine. To each their own. It can be very stupid if it’s not able to be handled properly. I only took issue when he said everyone that bets on sports is an idiot.
 

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