NHL may not participate in Olympics after 2010
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Jazz
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We need some consistency, pick one and stick to it....willie said:
As much as I enjoy the World Cup - it has hardly any credibility outside of Canada, and to a smaller extent Sweden and Finland...that's it.
It will also not reach as wide a world audience as the Olympics will, and because it is in the off season, the hockey simply is not as good. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer both the World Cup and the Olympics every 2 years, but it looks like the NHL players are thinking that it might be too much to frequently...so if we are going to choose one, the Olympics is better for hockey.
Also, if we have a WJC every Olympics, then what about players like Crosby? Would Pittsburgh have to release him? Aren't we opening another can of worms...?
Blind Gardien said:
Why in the world would you clap for a post that doesn't reflect past or present realities?
Garbs
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willie said:
How in the world can you FORCE it to be a World Juniors Tournament?
If a 27 year old wants to play, why shouldn't he play?
Why shouldn't a country to be able to field it's best possible team for hockey when it does that in virtually every other sport?
Now, if the NHL doesn't participate, that changes things, especially for Canada and the US.
But if the Euro leagues want to cooperate, and if they're gracious enough to realize the importance of INTERNATIONAL games like these (I know unilateral Americans hate thinking the world is more important than one country), then why shouldn't they be able to send their best?
Does anyone really want to see our 18-22 year olds playing Adult teams from Russia, Finland, Czech, etc.
I don't.
Jazz
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Well, technically, they (the IIHF) can force anything. For the Summer Olympics, FIFA has made it an Under-23 event (with 1 or 2 over-age expections).TinCanCommunications said:
No doubt that move was done so the Olympics would not compete with their World Cup. But hockey does not have a 'world' recognized World Cup (it is only given importance in Canada, Sweden and Finland) like soccer does...
willie
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Jazz said:
Sure right now it isn't. But it can be marketed and developed as such. As it stands, Europeans place a huge amount of emphasis on the World Championships.
Why not, every fourth year, delay the world championships until after the NHL season is over and then have the World "Cup" with every team's best players. A few players who go deep in the playoffs will have to grind it out but that is a small minority. (and since it is clear the NHLPA - and the NHL for that matter - do not like the current format, this would probably be more agreeable to the NHLPA)
Jazz
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Yes, of course, everthing can be developed....but how long would it take to match the appeal and the reach of the Olympics? A couple of decades at least....why waste that time when we can go ahead with the Olympics and grow even further from there?willie said:
Accomodating the Olympics once every 4 years is not as hard as most people make it out to be....
e-e
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WCJr said:Agree completley.
The World Cup is a far superior tournament.
for who? have any idea how many people around the globe watch olympic hockey?
i'd take olympics over "world" cup any day
Tadite
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To heck with all these glorified exhabition games. Not worth the time or the money.
You want to have useless games like this? Send college kids or minro leaguers. Not people who are actually important to their teams.
You want to have useless games like this? Send college kids or minro leaguers. Not people who are actually important to their teams.
Tadite said:
Wow.
Not sure why. But Americans seem to be most opposed to it.
Course, of all the major countries in the Olympic Hockey, Americans care least about the sport.
joshjull
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Jazz said:I'm sorry, I can only equate that with narrow-minded and inward thinking.
How can promoting the game (via the Olympics) to a wider world audience not be good for the NHL? What if hockey becomes more interesting to fans around the world after seeing world-class action...what if they start taking part in their countries national program....then we have a wider area to eventually draw more NHL players from. Have you not seen the increased international flavor of basketball since the NBA started going to the Olympics? Well it could even be more-so for the NHL.
I am not even factoring increased jersey sales worldwide and things like that....
There is more to the hockey world than North America...
Now I will shake my head
at your ignorance. My thinking isn't narrow minded it is grounded in reality. Your problem is you equate NHL with international hockey. They are NOT the same thing. As for your basketball analogy, are you kidding me? Basketball was already played all over the world well before the pros went to the olympics. Also the NBA didn't have to shut down during the season to participate. Hockey is played primarily in North America and Europe. Your right that there is more to the hockey world than North America. But Europe's impact on NHL revenue is minimal at best. You may not like it but the reason the NHL went to the olympics was to grow the sport in the US. Then to use that increased interest to get better TV money and other revenue streams. Not to grow the sport around the world "for the good of the game".
joshjull
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TinCanCommunications said:
Are saying American hockey fans care the least about it? I would say that isn't the case. Americans as a whole you are probably right. But we have more hockey fans in this country than many of our opponents have citizens.
joshjull said:
Yes, that's what I meant. As a whole.
And even the fans who love hockey, for whatever reason, really aren't keen on the Olympics.
But Americans, in general, don't really go for international things.
They like their own internal championships better.
King Ryan said:
Ask the typical Canadian where they were when Canada won gold in 2002.
They know.
It was bigger than any Stanley Cup celebration, that's for sure.
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