GDT: NHL Free Agent Frenzy 2024

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

UPL is better than George and would have a year or two longer at a similar cap hit. I see the appeal. I wouldn't pretend that UPL is a star goalie or anything though.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if last season was just the start of things to come, or if it was the peak. Goalies are weird these days.

I grew up in the era where it was basically required for you to have an outstanding goaltender to have a chance at winning. These days it's way less of a need.

 

[BobRossColton]

God, I'd love Swayman on this team, guy seems like he'd be a perfect fit.

Historically speaking, it also seems like a real Avs move. They've used other teams as their development team for their goalies for a while, Anderson, Varly, Gru and even now with George.

If we got UPL, I think we'd have to pay for potential as well. 5x5..

 

[S E P H]

I 100% do that trade, but what incentive would the Sabres do it? Or except Adams is officially off his rocker.

 

[hockeyfish]

I 100% do that trade, but what incentive would the Sabres do it? Or except Adams is officially off his rocker.

Only putting 8 letters on a jersey instead of 9 would save the team thousands!

 

[Alienblood]

Ah yes. NHLtraderumors.com the most legit rumor sourcing website out there.

no one is saying legit, it's something to ponder.

4giev ain't it and management must know this

 

[Sea Eagles]

no one is saying it's something to ponder.

4giev ain't it and management must know this

He says about the goalie who won more games than any other on the entire planet last season.

 

[Alienblood]

He says about the goalie who won more games than any other on the entire planet last season.

and 2 not very good playoffs

 

[dahrougem2]

He says about the goalie who won more games than any other on the entire planet last season.

A monkey could have won those games. He's not good.

 

[LOFIN]

4giev ain't it and management must know this

Still the least of our problems in this roster. And not like UPL is a surefire solution.

I'm not against it, but hard to see why this would be realistic.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

Wait, why we rate UPL so high?

He's 6'5", 24 and just put up a .910 save percentage on a team that wasn't really known for their defense. It's the hope that he will continue to develop off of that and you acquire him right before the boom.

You had me at 6'5".

 

[dahrougem2]

Still the least of our problems in this roster. And not like UPL is a surefire solution.

I'm not against it, but hard to see why this would be realistic.

The least of our problems?

During the regular season, 41 goaltenders played 25+ games. He ranked 32nd in GSAA.

Of the 17 goalies in the playoffs he ranked 15th.

Tell me how he is the least of our problems?

An average goaltender takes the Avs places. Georgiev is WELL below average.

 

[LOFIN]

The least of our problems?

During the regular season, 41 goaltenders played 25+ games. He ranked 32nd in GSAA.

Of the 17 goalies in the playoffs he ranked 15th.

Tell me how he is the least of our problems?

An average goaltender takes the Avs places. Georgiev is WELL below average.

And yet was totally fine in the playoffs.

In the meantime, we are most likely missing at least 1 top-6 winger to start the season. Possibly two top-6 wingers.

Like I said, I'm not against upgrading on Georgiev. I just have a hard time seeing it being realistic. And UPL is not a surefire upgrade. More potential, probably. Probably also going to make more money than Georgiev this year.

 

[dahrougem2]

And yet was totally fine in the playoffs.

In the meantime, we are most likely missing at least 1 top-6 winger to start the season. Possibly two top-6 wingers.

Like I said, I'm not against upgrading on Georgiev. I just have a hard time seeing it being realistic. And UPL is not a surefire upgrade. More potential, probably. Probably also going to make more money than Georgiev this year.

But he wasn't "totally fine" in the playoffs.

Did he outright cost the Avalanche games? Only game 1 vs Winnipeg.

Did he help them win games, though? Not really. Games 3 and 6 vs Dallas being the only one he really was great.

He was still giving up 3+ goals in games 1, 2, 4, and 5. That isn't "totally fine" goaltending.

 

[LOFIN]

But he wasn't "totally fine" in the playoffs.

Did he outright cost the Avalanche games? Only game 1 vs Winnipeg.

Did he help them win games, though? Not really. Games 3 and 6 vs Dallas being the only one he really was great.

He was still giving up 3+ goals in games 1, 2, 4, and 5. That isn't "totally fine" goaltending.

How about "not the reason they lost" then? There are bigger holes in the roster. The moment we are relying on our goaltending, we already lost.

Considering the cost, I probably would've taken a shot at Ullmark. Still pretty hard in our cap situation.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

And yet was totally fine in the playoffs.

In the meantime, we are most likely missing at least 1 top-6 winger to start the season. Possibly two top-6 wingers.

Like I said, I'm not against upgrading on Georgiev. I just have a hard time seeing it being realistic. And UPL is not a surefire upgrade. More potential, probably. Probably also going to make more money than Georgiev this year.

Was he though?

Below .900 is anything but fine. He had that brutal start to the Winnipeg series and was above .900 twice against Dallas. That flat out sucks.

 

[henchman21]

George is up there on the problems with the roster. He's not Nuke/Landy/Cap... but he's up there.

We spent more time on the top 6 wing/3C discussion and those are a much lower issues on the roster.

 

[LOFIN]

If CMac finds a way to upgrade on Georgiev (yes, I would view UPL as an upgrade albeit not a real, established one) while making the cap work I'm all for it.

 

[Muffin]

How about "not the reason they lost" then? There are bigger holes in the roster. The moment we are relying on our goaltending, we already lost.

Considering the cost, I probably would've taken a shot at Ullmark. Still pretty hard in our cap situation.

You don't need to steal games but you need to give your team a chance to win. Being down 0-3 and 0-4 every game isn't it. He's lucky the team bailed his sorry ass out in game 1 against Dallas

Watching Dallas light 4Giev up while struggling to score against Skinner was pathetic.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Georgiev was forcing the Avs to have to score 4+ goals to win in the playoffs. That’s not good goaltending. He was very good in game 6 vs Dallas though and gave the Avs every chance to force a game 7.

 

[ABasin]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if last season was just the start of things to come, or if it was the peak. Goalies are weird these days.

I grew up in the era where it was basically required for you to have an outstanding goaltender to have a chance at winning. These days it's way less of a need.

Agreed that you don’t need outstanding goaltending to win.

But you also can’t have bad goaltending and win.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Agreed that you don’t need outstanding goaltending to win.

But you also can’t have bad goaltending and win.

Unless you are the 2022 Avs

 

[Muffin]

Georgiev was forcing the Avs to have to score 4+ goals to win in the playoffs. That’s not good goaltending. He was very good in game 6 vs Dallas though and gave the Avs every chance to force a game 7.

The Avs literally did NOT win a single game without scoring 4 goals in the playoffs.

 

[Muffin]

Unless you are the 2022 Avs

That team doesn't exist anymore. If you replaced Skinner or Bobrovsky with Fourgiev neither Florida or Edmonton makes the final.

 

[LOFIN]

That team doesn't exist anymore. If you replaced Skinner or Bobrovsky with Fourgiev neither Florida or Edmonton makes the final.

Edmonton would. Florida, not so much.

 

[The Abusement Park]

That team doesn't exist anymore. If you replaced Skinner or Bobrovsky with Fourgiev neither Florida or Edmonton makes the final.

I actually think both teams make the finals with Georgiev in net. Especially Florida.