GreenHornet
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Oy, THIS crap again.atlanta LOL just leave that awful place permantly already oh well quebec city by 2050 if atlanta comes cause we know it wont last AGAIN.
Oy, THIS crap again.atlanta LOL just leave that awful place permantly already oh well quebec city by 2050 if atlanta comes cause we know it wont last AGAIN.
The wrong was righted when Nordiques left, Quebec should never have gotten the an NHL team in the first place. That whole WHA merger was a bullshit move by idiot Zeigler.Put a team in Quebec City. Right that wrong, once and for all.
They want Houston and Atlanta, circumstances are lining up that they'll have owners, so that's why they're going to open up now. I still have a mild amount of skepticism about both (skepticism not about the markets "working" or anything like that, just ownership logistics). But is there anywhere else anyone here can think of that opening up a process would be catered to?
atlanta LOL just leave that awful place permantly already oh well quebec city by 2050 if atlanta comes cause we know it wont last AGAIN.
To be fair, @GreenHornet , we also have half this thread $#!++!ng on the idea that Quebec City could work but we're basing that on hypotheticals also. Let no one say this board doesn't love a good flogging.Oy, THIS crap again.
Feel free to ignore Quebec posts. Freedom of speech is still a thing.Can we not talk about Quebec
But seriously a us poster brought it up to mock Canadians. Do you think the league wants to go there? They pretty clearly want Houston and Atlanta.Feel free to ignore Quebec posts. Freedom of speech is still a thing.
It was the right move to prevent another WHA. Hockey was still (is) a Canadian Sport based in Montreal.The wrong was righted when Nordiques left, Quebec should never have gotten the an NHL team in the first place. That whole WHA merger was a bullshit move by idiot Zeigler.
The wrong was righted when Nordiques left, Quebec should never have gotten the an NHL team in the first place. That whole WHA merger was a bullshit move by idiot Zeigler.
He CAN afford it. The question is will he actually pay the money, or will he just go buy another casino or steakhouse chain.Fertitta is worth 10 billion. He can afford it. I think he wants a new arena, and Houston and Harris County told him there won't be one without an NHL expansion team.
I think you are dead on. The NHL has been choosing its markets since it began the expansion process in 2015. Vegas was a shoe-in. Seattle would have been in earlier, but the NHL had to wait out all the red tape around retrofitting Key Arena.I'd be surprised if it's an actual "process" like it was for LV round.
I think the NHL has targeted Hou and ATL. They want those markets after they have basically exhausted all non NBA markets (got into LV and SEA before NBA did).
Houston, really 2 questions. 1 will Fertitia pay the price the NHL wants which is going to be over $1 billion USD. Second is the arena. Will a big renovation be around the corner as the arena is 21 years old now or will they build a new one. Think it is located in the right place, so a reno should be all that is needed to secure another 25 years.
ATL, as I understand have 2 parties looking at building a new arena. NHL is going to have to pick from one of those.
And proof that the snub of the Aeros being a part of the merger was short sighted.The wrong was righted when Nordiques left, Quebec should never have gotten the an NHL team in the first place. That whole WHA merger was a bullshit move by idiot Zeigler.
Yeah Houston was the WHA market the NHL should have brought in but that was how the NHL rolled with Zeigler in charge.And proof that the snub of the Aeros being a part of the merger was short sighted.
He'll pay. Does he want a new arena? Because sounds like that's the deal.He CAN afford it. The question is will he actually pay the money, or will he just go buy another casino or steakhouse chain.
There was no proof Houston would work.Yeah Houston was the WHA market the NHL should have brought in but that was how the NHL rolled with Zeigler in charge.
The landscape of the late 70s NHL was entirely different. There was no U.S. TV money keeping the league going. Molson's ran the league. CBC subsidized it, with 3 Canadian owners taking in all that revenue. Bankruptcy was problem for several U.S markets: Washington, Pittsburgh, St. Louis. K.C moved to Denver and were epicly struggling. Cleveland folded, which was the franchise I believe Houston's owner was trying to purchase before he folded the Aeros, realising the NHL wasn't going to take him in. Atlanta moved 2 years later. There was no guarantees beyond Chicago and L.A in the West, in the U.S at that time, and I am not surprised the NHL owners didn't want to take that gamble, as Texas wouldn't have only increased travel costs for everyone, with little guarantee of profits.Yeah Houston was the WHA market the NHL should have brought in but that was how the NHL rolled with Zeigler in charge
Will they be upset at Bettman, or the BoG? Or the myriad of groups out there that *could* provide PKP with additional financial backing (something he has been begging for since 2018), but haven't? Or, how 'bout that CAD hovering at around $0.74 to every $1 USD? If I recall, currency value was cited as a factor during the last attempt made to bring an expansion team to QC.
In this way, fans there *can* be pissed if they want, but it's a poor use of ones time and energy.
Feel free to ignore Quebec posts. Freedom of speech is still a thing.
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Oy, THIS crap again.
We wouldn’t have half the US markets we have right now if they didn’t try it more than once.To be fair, @GreenHornet , we also have half this thread $#!++!ng on the idea that Quebec City could work but we're basing that on hypotheticals also. Let no one say this board doesn't love a good flogging.
Re: "this crap again" whenever the topic of Atlanta pops up, it's really hard to frame the conversation correctly. As some of us have said in other threads, if the league grants Krause (or Carter) a franchise, this isn't even like going back to Atlanta the third time.......it's going to north metro for the FIRST time. But it's hard to frame it in those terms for a national or international discussion.
It's a lot like if the NHL decided to go to Cleveland. If someone told me "well it didn't work the first time," I'd reply "Richfield didn't work the first time..."