GDT: NHL Entry Draft 2021 - 5PM Day 1 - 8AM Day 2
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If Dad gets him out in the paddock slinging hay and wrangling the animals, he could do even better.
I don't really see Josh as anything more than a very good 3rd liner in terms of raw skill, but the odds of him being more are certainly improved by having the team basically able to coach him 24/7. This hasn't really happened before. His father has also guided him to this point and will continue to do so. Everything is going for him, even his late growth spurt.
If he immediately sees offensive success with ASU, we could be looking at something more like TJ Oshie. A possession machine, but never a PPG guy.
If he immediately sees offensive success with ASU, we could be looking at something more like TJ Oshie. A possession machine, but never a PPG guy.
tucknroll
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Well the draft is done so like always I'll post my list of whom I would have drafted with the same picks. In this list I choose which trades I would have made.. for example in 2020 I wouldn't have traded for Hall so we would have had pick 18 (unless forfeited). This year was a little more tricky because we chose Doan much earlier than i would have so I have no clue where he would have ended up. So i made a list with and without him. I'll also post my lists from past years too.
2021
9OV- Cole Sillinger (Would have liked to trade down to 15ish for Brennan Othmann if right offer was given)
37- Aatu Raty
43- Benjamin Gaudreau
60- Sasha Pastujov
107- Josh Doan or Dylan Duke
122- Dylan Duke or Joshua Roy
139- Joshua Roy or Connor Lockhart
171- Connor Lockhart or Ryan St. Louis
223- Ryan St. Louis or Eric Alarie
2020
18OV- Dawson Mercer
49- Jean-luc Foudy (Forfeited, though I would have traded down a fair amount before taking Foudy anyways)
111- Zion Nybeck
142- Pavel Novak
173- Pavel Gogolev
192- Ethan Cardwell
204- Roman Faith
2019
14OV- Peyton Krebs / Philip Tomasino (If traded down which i wanted)
45- Nicholas Robertson
76- Matias Maccelli
98- Maxim Cajkovic
107- Ethan Keppen
174- Billy Constantinou
176- Yaroslav Likhachyov
200- Kristian Tanus
207- Dylan Jackson
Only did first rounds before 2019
2018
5OV- Quinn Hughes
2017
23OV- Klim Kostin
2016
7OV- Clayton Keller
16OV- Jacob Chychrun
2015
3OV- Mitch Marner
Wanted to trade down to get Dougie Hamilton and a first from Boston when they wanted Hanifin. If that would of happened I would have taken Matt Barzal or Kyle Connor
2021
9OV- Cole Sillinger (Would have liked to trade down to 15ish for Brennan Othmann if right offer was given)
37- Aatu Raty
43- Benjamin Gaudreau
60- Sasha Pastujov
107- Josh Doan or Dylan Duke
122- Dylan Duke or Joshua Roy
139- Joshua Roy or Connor Lockhart
171- Connor Lockhart or Ryan St. Louis
223- Ryan St. Louis or Eric Alarie
2020
18OV- Dawson Mercer
49- Jean-luc Foudy (Forfeited, though I would have traded down a fair amount before taking Foudy anyways)
111- Zion Nybeck
142- Pavel Novak
173- Pavel Gogolev
192- Ethan Cardwell
204- Roman Faith
2019
14OV- Peyton Krebs / Philip Tomasino (If traded down which i wanted)
45- Nicholas Robertson
76- Matias Maccelli
98- Maxim Cajkovic
107- Ethan Keppen
174- Billy Constantinou
176- Yaroslav Likhachyov
200- Kristian Tanus
207- Dylan Jackson
Only did first rounds before 2019
2018
5OV- Quinn Hughes
2017
23OV- Klim Kostin
2016
7OV- Clayton Keller
16OV- Jacob Chychrun
2015
3OV- Mitch Marner
Wanted to trade down to get Dougie Hamilton and a first from Boston when they wanted Hanifin. If that would of happened I would have taken Matt Barzal or Kyle Connor
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Mangosteen
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Where is the best place to get a draft review /grade on how the Yotes did? Just curious to see what the “professionals” say.
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What’s the revised Top 10 look like?
- Guenther - RW
- Soderstrom - RD
- Jenik - C
- Hayton - C
- Maccelli - LW
- Prosvetov- G
- Farinacci - C
- Doan - RW
- Fedotov - LW
- Moser - LD
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What if Fedotov is a hidden gem as well. Things could be looking good around here in about three years. Not holding my breath on Wright or Bedard but add in a few more top five draft picks. I highly doubt GMBA is going to be trading those away for Derek Stepan pieces like the previous dumbass. This is how you rebuild.
Jormungandr
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I love Fedotov and have high hopes for him. I actually liked most of the Russians in this draft.
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Me too. Speaking of Daryin, I wonder how much more time he spends in the KHL. Hopefully he doesn't have a Kaprizov like contract where he's there until he's 24. He turns 21 in two weeks.
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Thing about next year is that the top four guys right now are all centers. Wright, Lambert, and Savoie are all seen as good enough to go top two in just about any draft. The consolation prize is Rutger McGroarty who looks like a beast of a power center.
The year after everyone is talking about Bedard and Michkov as these generational players, and it’s true. Bedard is Crosby/McDavid level and Michkov is Ovechkin/Malkin level.
The 2023 guys could be better than Wright. And Wright is a top tier first overall. 2023 is a generational draft. But the thing about 2022 is how many 2021 kids got missed. There’s going to be a huge amount of 2nd and 3rd year eligible break out players. I’m expecting a very deep draft beyond the first round.
The last few drafts really haven’t been great. 2021 was very weak. 2019 was a little thin at very top. Heavy with top line players flout short on real star players. I think 2020 is similar. And 2018 really. 18, 19, 20 are kind of solid, and unspectacular. 2021 I think is piss poor. And I think both 2022 and 2023 will be for the ages. League building drafts. Foundational for the game.
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JasonDemersWasOkay
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The thing is our prospect pool isn’t bad it just lacks that one blue chip “oomph” guy like byfield/zegras etc.
I think we all know that’s going to solve itself next draft
I think we all know that’s going to solve itself next draft
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Guenther is close to that. But a winger unfortunately. I think everything happened so suddenly that we’re struggling to adjust to the concept of having Guenther in our pool. The unexpected trade into the top 10 and the unexpected drop of Guenther to 9th. Nobody was thinking about any of those wild ass possibilities. I think it’ll really sink in when he’s the 2nd best player in the WHL next year before heading to the WJCs where he really lights it on fire.
He’s tall, he skates well, he’s an elite goal scorer, and just as good at playmaking, he’s willing to mix it up physically, and he’s good defensively (Top PK unit at U18s). I’ve read every scouting report and watched every video (I plan to rewatch the Canadian U18 games soon and isolate on just his shifts), and nobody has anything bad to say about him and pretty much everyone agrees that he’s got a super high floor. I’m still trying to wrap my head around it myself. I think we’re in collective shock still.
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The Russians and Nussbaumer have indefinite rights so you just leave them where they are until they're ready.
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^^2025 home opener in the new arena will be a night to remember.
BUX7PHX
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This is part of the reason as to why I am willing to defend the previous GM. We just got rid of some prospects for Boko Imama. Same story - maybe 10-25 games a year in the NHL for what we gave up. We still have a decent pool left with all of the pieces that had moved out in other deals. This draft gave us the #1, 8, 9, and 10 players, and there are some who are closer to or at the pro level, but not quite at the NHL level for professionals.
We spent 4 seasons where our prospect pool barely grew because players taken had stagnated in development. It feels good to have a ten or twelve deep prospect pool, compared to sometimes as little as five or six deep about 6-12 years ago. So few would have strong development, and many would fall off. I think we have far more pieces in our system than just about any time in Coyote history.
The issue is no top-end prospect, but we attempted to get a top end talent in trying to get an NHL elite in Hall signed long term. BA is going in the other direction, because yes, we still need that elite player, to go along with continued development.
