NHL NHL Draft Lottery - - Bruins fall to 7th

[BruinDust]

The Hawks are very astute at drafting, highly doubt they do not take one of Hagens or Martone.
Nashville on the other hand may do something off the board.

They passed on Demidov last year which was a mistake. Easily the next best player to Celebrini.

 

[yazmybaby]

Martone to CHI.
Utah, Nashville and Philly: Desnoyers, Frondell and Hagens. If one of them decides McQueen, a D, O'Brien or Martin are their pick, this opens up bigtime for Boston.

Suddenly you have Philly and Utah looking at Desnoyers, Frondell and Hagens deciding which of the three to take.

Good analysis, I hope so.
McQueen is the wild card here, he has a great upside, or he could be a fourth liner or a first line C.

 

[Coach Parker]

Good analysis, I hope so.
McQueen is the wild card here, he has a great upside, or he could be a fourth liner or a first line C.

This is going to be a crazy top 5 draft. I wish they had remained in it guaranteeing one of the top six, but here we are.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I disagree with you.
Skating is the most important skill set in hockey and can be very hard to fix.
It is the reason why players in the AHL can never make the NHL, the speed of the game is just too much for them to keep pace.
I would much rather pick a player that is a good or excellent skater now, like Misa/Schaefer/Eklund/Hagens vs one that needs a great deal of work on skating. Of the four players mentioned, Eklund would be the only one that should be available at 7.
If a player has a below average shot is physically strong, that skill set is much easier to fix vs skating.

Skating is pretty easy to improve to an NHL level, it happens all the time with prospects.

You cant teach star level shooting/passing/IQ

 

[Bruin4]

Who?

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Lol
Their out there not going to post them all, take up to much room. Maybe he wont but imo he goes top 10.

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[PlayMakers]

I have a peeve about referring to players as pieces. It just doesn't sound right (ex: that so and so is a nice a piece )

I don't like when Judd Sirott says, "Here it comes..."

 

[PlayMakers]

Lol
Their out there not going to post them all, take up to much room. Maybe he wont but imo he goes top 10.

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I find it hard to believe the Flyers would pass on Desnoyers, considering his brother is in their system and he's drawn comparisons to Sean Couturier.

 

[yazmybaby]

They passed on Demidov last year which was a mistake. Easily the next best player to Celebrini.

You are comparing a F to a D, and neither player has played a full season yet.
Any time you draft a player from Russia, you are taking a chance they may not come over the pond for a year or more.
Michkov would have been taken a lot higher if teams knew 100% he was leaving Russia during his draft year.
Let's circle back in a few years.

Lets look at some other Hawk picks:
Oliver Moore - he is already in the NHL at 20 YO, scored 4 pts in 9 games last year.
Nick Lardis - he scored 71 goals last year in the OHL.
Frank Nazar looks like an awesome pick at 13, considering the 2022 draft was one of the weakest drafts in years.

 

[yazmybaby]

Skating is pretty easy to improve to an NHL level, it happens all the time with prospects.

You cant teach star level shooting/passing/IQ

Then we will have no issues with Dean L becoming a first line center.
I feel so much better now. LOL

 

[Bruin4]

I find it hard to believe the Flyers would pass on Desnoyers, considering his brother is in their system and he's drawn comparisons to Sean Couturier.

Sure they could take desnoyers, maybe he wont be there when they pick, maybe he will and they still take Martin or someone else for that matter, but I'd think their going to take who they feel will be the best pro, whether that players brother is or is not in their system.

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[quietbruinfan]

I learned today that Caleb Desnoyers' brother is in the Philadelphia organization.

I don't like when Judd Sirott says, "Here it comes..."

I am right there with Dr. Hook.

 

[ON3M4N]

Lol
Their out there not going to post them all, take up to much room. Maybe he wont but imo he goes top 10.

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What you've posted here.....

A flyer fan site talking about him as a prospects
A tweet from a guy who said an OHL coach and GM think
Craig Button's mock
McLaughlin baiscally parroting the other tweet you had
A article about him being available at PIT with #11OA
A mock that has him at #8

This really doesn't prove that many feel like he's a top 10 and some a top 5

 

[Bruin4]

What you've posted here.....

A flyer fan site talking about him as a prospects
A tweet from a guy who said an OHL coach and GM think
Craig Button's mock
McLaughlin baiscally parroting the other tweet you had
A article about him being available at PIT with #11OA
A mock that has him at #8

This really doesn't prove that many feel like he's a top 10 and some a top 5

is anyone any better than the other ?

its all speculation at this point, no one knows a teams list. You dont think he will be a top 10 thats fine , I do. I guess we'll see on June 27.

 

[ON3M4N]

is anyone any better than the other ?

its all speculation at this point, no one knows a teams list. You dont think he will be a top 10 thats fine , I do. I guess we'll see on June 27.

I didn't say one way or the other. Could he go top 10? sure, all it takes is one team to really like him. Do I think he's a no brainer/lock top 10 pick? no.

 

[bbfan419]

And MacKinnon & Makar were just bounced in round one. Isles jump up 9 spots to 1st overall. Hockey is a fickle sport

True, but I would take MacKinnon and Makar on my team any day.

 

[BruinDust]

Then we will have no issues with Dean L becoming a first line center.
I feel so much better now. LOL

Letourneau's issues aren't his skating. He's a solid skater for a 6'7 player which was part of his appeal.

How quickly players think the game, not how quick their feet move, usually is the dividing factor between guys who make it and guys who don't.

 

[bbfan419]

Agreed Don! Hard to be mad about the Isles catching a break. Although they did get DiPietro & Tavares 1st overall (both after Bostons last 1st round pick; Joe Thornton 1997). The Bruins were due a gift more than the Isles were

Hopefully next Year the Bruins get the gift of #1 overall.

 

[lopey]

Lol
Count me as one of them.
I really think this kid is going to be an impactful player at the NHL level in more ways than one, and if the Bruins draft him at 7, I’m all in. This clip reminds me so much of the way Neely played and a goal he scored early in his career, I believe against the kings. Now I’m not saying he’s another Neely, but IMO he’ll have as good of a chance to be an impactful player at the NHL level as anyone who’ ll be there at 7.

Our next Lucic!

 

[Bruin4]

I didn't say one way or the other. Could he go top 10? sure, all it takes is one team to really like him. Do I think he's a no brainer/lock top 10 pick? no.

So your original gripe was

"we shit on Sweeney for taking guys earlier than they're ranked.....but then we'll turn around and justify why we're ok with taking a guy earlier than he's ranked." "I'm not opposed to Martin, but if he's the target, I think you move back"

Which if Sweeney takes Martin at 7 I dont feel its a reach, that if he's still there., but thats where we differ. I mean it would be nice to be able to move back, and add as well as getting Martin, if he's their guy, but I dont see him being there.

Nor do I see Martin as being the type of prospect where Sweeney is taking a guy earlier than ranked its not like Martin is a 2nd rounder, he is arguably a top 10 pick as you just stated, a legit prospect climbing up the rankings. There are other players who you can say the same about its all in a teams need and who they covet.

if a team ahead of the Bruins takes OBrien or Mrtka and Frondell or Desnoyers are available Im all for Sweeney taking one of those guys as well. i think sitting at 7 isn't all that bad because after Schaefer,Misa and Hagens imo teams can go a lot of different ways, where the likes of a Martone, Desnoyers, or Frondell could slide down to 7. Id also be happy with eklund. Now if Sweeney goes off and picks some one who's expected to go mid second then Id call that taking a guy who was way below his ranking, but that isn't going to happen with a top 7 pick.

 

[ON3M4N]

So your original gripe was

"we shit on Sweeney for taking guys earlier than they're ranked.....but then we'll turn around and justify why we're ok with taking a guy earlier than he's ranked." "I'm not opposed to Martin, but if he's the target, I think you move back"

Which if Sweeney takes Martin at 7 I dont feel its a reach, that if he's still there., but thats where we differ. I mean it would be nice to be able to move back, and add as well as getting Martin, if he's their guy, but I dont see him being there.

Nor do I see Martin as being the type of prospect where Sweeney is taking a guy earlier than ranked its not like Martin is a 2nd rounder, he is arguably a top 10 pick as you just stated, a legit prospect climbing up the rankings. There are other players who you can say the same about its all in a teams need and who they covet.

if a team ahead of the Bruins takes OBrien or Mrtka and Frondell or Desnoyers are available Im all for Sweeney taking one of those guys as well. i think sitting at 7 isn't all that bad because after Schaefer,Misa and Hagens imo teams can go a lot of different ways, where the likes of a Martone, Desnoyers, or Frondell could slide down to 7. Id also be happy with eklund. Now if Sweeney goes off and picks some one who's expected to go mid second then Id call that taking a guy who was way below his ranking, but that isn't going to happen with a top 7 pick.

It wasn't a gripe at all.

You're proving my original comment though. I posted a snip of his rankings and he's anywhere from 11 to 57. If you averaged out his rank (and I removed the 57 because its an outlier) he comes in around #15. You're justifying that he should be taken at #7 because you feel like he's a top 10 pick and some people think he's a top 5 (even though no ranking as him there).

I never stated that he's arguably a top 10 pick. I said if a team really like him, he could be picked top 10. To me if I'm saying player "X" is a top 10 pick, then it means they're basically a lock that they're being taken in the top 10. In the case of Martin, I'd say he's a top 15 pick, which aligns to his average ranking.

He may go top 5, he may go top 10, but I wouldn't be shocked if wasn't picked top 10. I'd be shocked if he fell outside the top 15 though.

 

[yazmybaby]

Letourneau's issues aren't his skating. He's a solid skater for a 6'7 player which was part of his appeal.

How quickly players think the game, not how quick their feet move, usually is the dividing factor between guys who make it and guys who don't.

He needs a great deal of work with his entire game, including his skating.
He should be playing this year in the Prospects Challenge, lets evaluate how much he has progressed then.
I used to go these games and can remember players like Cliffy and Carlo playing very well and being " noticeable" on most shifts.
It's a good tourney to evaluate prospects.

 

[Bruin4]

It wasn't a gripe at all.

You're proving my original comment though. I posted a snip of his rankings and he's anywhere from 11 to 57. If you averaged out his rank (and I removed the 57 because its an outlier) he comes in around #15. You're justifying that he should be taken at #7 because you feel like he's a top 10 pick and some people think he's a top 5 (even though no ranking as him there).

I never stated that he's arguably a top 10 pick. I said if a team really like him, he could be picked top 10. To me if I'm saying player "X" is a top 10 pick, then it means they're basically a lock that they're being taken in the top 10. In the case of Martin, I'd say he's a top 15 pick, which aligns to his average ranking.

He may go top 5, he may go top 10, but I wouldn't be shocked if wasn't picked top 10. I'd be shocked if he fell outside the top 15 though.

Huh? Was too... lol. Your gripe was people complaining about Sweeney reaching and they want him to take Martin with his first.
He'll go top 10

ill make you a friendly bet. If he goes top ten, I pick your avatar for the next year, right up to draft day.if he doesn't you pick mine

 

[JoeIsAStud]

He needs a great deal of work with his entire game, including his skating.
He should be playing this year in the Prospects Challenge, lets evaluate how much he has progressed then.
I used to go these games and can remember players like Cliffy and Carlo playing very well and being " noticeable" on most shifts.
It's a good tourney to evaluate prospects.

He cant play in the Prospects challenge as he is a college student.. He should be at Devo camp in July though

 

[bbfan419]

The Bruins should be able to get one of: Desnoyers, Frondell, Eklund, O'Brien, Martone or Martin at # 7 and I would be happy with any of them, my hope is they can trade a prospect or two and move up to grab another 1st rounder between the 12 to 18 range. Getting a second player like Carbonneau, Zonnon, Bear or Reschny would be a real good draft for the Bruins.

 

[wintersej]

1. 2024 – Carter Yakemchuk
2. 2023 – Matvei Michkov
3. 2022 – Kevin Korchinski
4. 2021 – William Eklund
5. 2020 – Alexander Holtz
6. 2019 – Dylan Cozens
7. 2018 – Quinn Hughes
8. 2017 – Lias Andersson
9. 2016 – Clayton Keller
10. 2015 – Ivan Provorov
11. 2014 – Haydn Fleury
12. 2013 – Darnell Nurse
13. 2012 – Matt Dumba
14. 2011 – Mark Scheifele
15. 2010 – Jeff Skinner
16. 2009 – Nazem Kadri
17. 2008 – Colin Wilson
18. 2007 – Jakub Voracek
19. 2006 – Kyle Okposo
20. 2005 – Jack Skille


Pretty hit and miss.