NHL NHL Draft Lottery - - Bruins fall to 7th

[Bruins78]

O'Briens skating is a big worry for me...also read that he did not look comfortable or good against his top peers at Hlinka but that was last summer and maybe his confidence has just grown.

One thing to keep in mind is some of these lists are a little outdated and there are always surprises. I always see Sascha Boumedienne listed in the mid/late 20s. Kid should have been in Highschool this year and after a understandably "meh" start to the year at BU, he was great down the stretch for the Terriers. Then he put up 1 goal and 13 assists in 7 games at the WJC's. I thought he was more impressive the 2nd half of the season at BU then Noah Hannafin was as a 17 year old for most of his freshmen season at BC. Point being, don't be shocked if he goes in the top 12. There's always 1-2 surprises...hopefully not from Sweeney

 

[Bruin4]

Brady Martin

Lol
Count me as one of them.
I really think this kid is going to be an impactful player at the NHL level in more ways than one, and if the Bruins draft him at 7, I’m all in. This clip reminds me so much of the way Neely played and a goal he scored early in his career, I believe against the kings. Now I’m not saying he’s another Neely, but IMO he’ll have as good of a chance to be an impactful player at the NHL level as anyone who’ ll be there at 7.

 

[KnightofBoston]

well if Brady Martin is more Milan Lucic than Noel Acciari then sign me the f*** up

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Lol
Count me as one of them.
I really think this kid is going to be an impactful player at the NHL level in more ways than one, and if the Bruins draft him at 7, I’m all in. This clip reminds me so much of the way Neely played and a goal he scored early in his career, I believe against the kings. Now I’m not saying he’s another Neely, but IMO he’ll have as good of a chance to be an impactful player at the NHL level as anyone who’ ll be there at 7.

Can he fight? Hope so because he will be answering for hits unfortunately

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

O'Briens skating is a big worry for me...also read that he did not look comfortable or good against his top peers at Hlinka but that was last summer and maybe his confidence has just grown.

One thing to keep in mind is some of these lists are a little outdated and there are always surprises. I always see Sascha Boumedienne listed in the mid/late 20s. Kid should have been in Highschool this year and after a understandably "meh" start to the year at BU, he was great down the stretch for the Terriers. Then he put up 1 goal and 13 assists in 7 games at the WJC's. I thought he was more impressive the 2nd half of the season at BU then Noah Hannafin was as a 17 year old for most of his freshmen season at BC. Point being, don't be shocked if he goes in the top 12. There's always 1-2 surprises...hopefully not from Sweeney

on the bright side, skating is the easiest thing to fix

 

[Bruin4]

Can he fight? Hope so because he will be answering for hits unfortunately

No clue. Seen him play at the hlinka and u18 is all. I’ve read a ton on him and he just turned 18 and is farm boy strong. If the Bruins draft him,have Mcquaid or Big Z work with him, if not hopefully he can’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

 

[Dr Hook]

Up there with culture, dawg and something else I can't remember at this moment

I have a peeve about referring to players as pieces. It just doesn't sound right (ex: that so and so is a nice a piece )

 

[ON3M4N]

Lol
Count me as one of them.
I really think this kid is going to be an impactful player at the NHL level in more ways than one, and if the Bruins draft him at 7, I’m all in. This clip reminds me so much of the way Neely played and a goal he scored early in his career, I believe against the kings. Now I’m not saying he’s another Neely, but IMO he’ll have as good of a chance to be an impactful player at the NHL level as anyone who’ ll be there at 7.

That's fine, but it still funny that we shit on Sweeney for taking guys earlier than they're ranked.....but then we'll turn around and justify why we're ok with taking a guy earlier than he's ranked.

I'm not opposed to Martin, but if he's the target, I think you move back.....or you trade a 1st next year + STL 2nd round pick to move back up into the top 15

 

[JoeIsAStud]

That's fine, but it still funny that we shit on Sweeney for taking guys earlier than they're ranked.....but then we'll turn around and justify why we're ok with taking a guy earlier than he's ranked.

I'm not opposed to Martin, but if he's the target, I think you move back.....or you trade a 1st next year + STL 2nd round pick to move back up into the top 15

As always you are playing a dangerous game if you think you can move back to get a guy. If you want Martin, he may not be there at 12. I don't thin he would be. He is the type of guy who every organization wants in their system

 

[ON3M4N]

As always you are playing a dangerous game if you think you can move back to get a guy. If you want Martin, he may not be there at 12. I don't thin he would be. He is the type of guy who every organization wants in their system

Sure its a dangerous game. I'll say this though, there's another guy in the mid-1st who brings a lot of what Martin does.

Prospect #1
Has the upside of being a notorious top-six player. Notorious, meaning well-known for being a nuisance to play against. He’ll need to do some work to get there, but he totally has the potential to make it happen. His high-end production alone is evidence that he could have a promising future in the NHL.

Prospect #2
With the way he plays and handles himself on the ice, there is a strong chance that with further development, he can become a middle-six forward in an NHL lineup and bring some secondary offense. His defensive game should translate well and he can become a penalty killer.

One of those is Martin and the other is Bear. Both guys are similar in size and production this past season.

 

[BlackFrancis]

Sure its a dangerous game. I'll say this though, there's another guy in the mid-1st who brings a lot of what Martin does.

Prospect #1
Has the upside of being a notorious top-six player. Notorious, meaning well-known for being a nuisance to play against. He’ll need to do some work to get there, but he totally has the potential to make it happen. His high-end production alone is evidence that he could have a promising future in the NHL.

Prospect #2
With the way he plays and handles himself on the ice, there is a strong chance that with further development, he can become a middle-six forward in an NHL lineup and bring some secondary offense. His defensive game should translate well and he can become a penalty killer.

One of those is Martin and the other is Bear. Both guys are similar in size and production this past season.

Bear's been injured a month or so and he's still got the 2nd most goals of the top 16 or whatever on Bob's list.

That's either incredibly impressive or a clear illustration of how shitty this draft is.

 

[Blowfish]

on the bright side, skating is the easiest thing to fix

Yes and No to this. Bergeron yes Brazeau/Freddy no.

 

[Blowfish]

This YouTube channel has "mixtapes" for pretty much all of the candidates at #7: Jesse Marshall

A few thoughts after watching:
-- O'Brien and McQueen looked pretty similar to me in that they're both lanky, they like to dangle with the puck, and neither one of them showed much of a speed burst. I don't remember either one of them skating past a defender in the videos. McQueen has the size and maybe a better shot but also the injury question marks. O'Brien's vision and passing looked out of this world. Both of them raise questions for me how well their games will translate in the NHL (bigger/stronger/faster defenders, d-men have better sticks, etc) but between the two, I liked what I saw from O'Brien more.

-- Eklund is fun to watch. He was making plays all over the ice. I was surprised to see him throwing the body and dropping grown men as well. Pronman compares him to Konecny and that seemed apt. I would not be upset if the B's took him over O'Brien or McQueen.

-- It's difficult not to like Brady Martin. He's a menace out there but I do wonder how his body will hold up if he tries to play that wrecking ball style against grown men. He'd probably be behind everyone mentioned above on my list (depending on McQueen's health) but it's easy to see him becoming a fan favorite quickly.

-- Mrtka doesn't do it for me. Aside from his size, nothing about him really jumps off the screen. He can move decently. He has decent stickhandles. He made some nice d plays. But he just doesn't strike me as an All Star type player in the NHL.

-- Jackson Smith is dynamic. He reminds of a better skating Lohrei. Unfortunately highlight videos don't typically tell you how good of a defender someone is and, by most reports, that's the biggest area Smith needs to improve. I'd steer clear of Smith but his ceiling is sky high.

-- I really liked what I saw from Martone and Desnoyers. I can see why most people have them a notch above O'Brien, Eklund, and McQueen. I'd be surprised if either is available at #7.

-- Frondell's shot is lethal. Where was it during the U18s?

Eklund for this fan.

 

[Bruin4]

That's fine, but it still funny that we shit on Sweeney for taking guys earlier than they're ranked.....but then we'll turn around and justify why we're ok with taking a guy earlier than he's ranked.

I'm not opposed to Martin, but if he's the target, I think you move back.....or you trade a 1st next year + STL 2nd round pick to move back up into the top 15

I think he's gone before the Bruins pick to be honest. He's a first round talent many feel top 10 others top 5.

 

[Boston Bandit]

I hate that buzz-word/phrase so bad. Second only to “filthy”.

I find “on a heater, woof, classic” and many more all overused and annoying

“Drives the play” is the one I have been noticing lately lol

 

[Boston Bandit]

I find “on a heater, woof, classic” and many more all overused and annoying

“Drives the play” is the one I have been noticing lately lol

Awhile back I saw the word people ranked they disliked the most is “moist”

 

[Coach Parker]

All we need is for one team before the Bruins to reach and take Martin or Eklund. Suddenly the four guys in the 3-6 range open up to Boston.

Would Nashville take Martin over Hagens? Ekund over Frondell for Chicago?

 

[Bruin4]

All we need is for one team before the Bruins to reach and take Martin or Eklund. Suddenly the four guys in the 3-6 range open up to Boston.

Would Nashville take Martin over Hagens? Ekund over Frondell for Chicago?

Seeing a lot of mocks are changing all the time, looking like just about anyone outside of Hagens,Misa and Schaefer could drop to the Bruins at 7.

The rise of Martin to go along with the possibility of someone taking OBrien or McQueen seem to be there, and then you add in a team who may want a defenseman in Mrtka, Smith or a Aitcheson Bruins just may make out pretty good at Seven.

 

[Coach Parker]

Seeing a lot of mocks are changing all the time, looking like just about anyone outside of Hagens,Misa and Schaefer could drop to the Bruins at 7.

The rise of Martin to go along with the possibility of someone taking OBrien or McQueen seem to be there, and then you add in a team who may want a defenseman in Mrtka, Smith or a Aitcheson Bruins just may make out pretty good at Seven.

Just sucks that before this, they were guaranteed one of the top six and now we are in a wait and hope situation.

As far as trades, it instantly becomes the most valuable trade asset as everyone above Boston will make their picks BUT if someone slips, Boston may have the piece coveted by another franchise to get that 1st line C in a package.

All eyes for me are on Hagens. He is the one that suddenly makes things interesting for one crazy team.

 

[ON3M4N]

I think he's gone before the Bruins pick to be honest. He's a first round talent many feel top 10 others top 5.

Who?

 

[yazmybaby]

on the bright side, skating is the easiest thing to fix

I disagree with you.
Skating is the most important skill set in hockey and can be very hard to fix.
It is the reason why players in the AHL can never make the NHL, the speed of the game is just too much for them to keep pace.
I would much rather pick a player that is a good or excellent skater now, like Misa/Schaefer/Eklund/Hagens vs one that needs a great deal of work on skating. Of the four players mentioned, Eklund would be the only one that should be available at 7.
If a player has a below average shot is physically strong, that skill set is much easier to fix vs skating.

 

[yazmybaby]

Eklund for this fan.

Agreed

 

[yazmybaby]

All we need is for one team before the Bruins to reach and take Martin or Eklund. Suddenly the four guys in the 3-6 range open up to Boston.

Would Nashville take Martin over Hagens? Ekund over Frondell for Chicago?

The Hawks are very astute at drafting, highly doubt they do not take one of Hagens or Martone.
Nashville on the other hand may do something off the board.

 

[nowayguy]

Consensus is nice but previous drafts tell us there's probably an all-star level player somewhere between picks 7-12. Someone who is going to end up being better than 3 or 4 of the guys picked in the top 6.

The real problem is that the Bruins haven't shown they know how to identify that type of talent.

 

[Coach Parker]

The Hawks are very astute at drafting, highly doubt they do not take one of Hagens or Martone.
Nashville on the other hand may do something off the board.

Martone to CHI.
Utah, Nashville and Philly: Desnoyers, Frondell and Hagens. If one of them decides McQueen, a D, O'Brien or Martin are their pick, this opens up bigtime for Boston.

Suddenly you have Philly and Utah looking at Desnoyers, Frondell and Hagens deciding which of the three to take.