NHL Draft Combine 2025

[TopC0rner]

The only height I want double fact checked is Malcolm Spence at 6’0.75”. I’ve seen him listed at 6’2”-6’3”

From eye test I wouldn't be surprised if he's really 6'1" (or 6'0.75"...).

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Any word on Desnoyers’ height and weight?

 

[viceroy]

Cootes is a Tinder 6'

Have you heard? Tinder is making Height selection now easier for the ladies, they added a slider and also a height detecting piece of software that should be able to gauge males' true heights using profile pictures. Life just got that much harder for us sub 6' guys.

*sigh*

 

[VIPettersson]

Have you heard? Tinder is making Height selection now easier for the ladies, they added a slider and also a height detecting piece of software that should be able to gauge males' true heights using profile pictures. Life just got that much harder for us sub 6' guys.

*sigh*

Tinder scrutinizing height measurements more than NHL is crazy

 

[BKarchitect]

Tinder scrutinizing height measurements more than NHL is crazy

Yeah, except go read all 50 pages of the Lane Hutson thread or watch NFL combine week discuss hand size for 4 hours straight - sports fans are way more concerned about dudes' measurements than women are.

 

[lanky]

Any word on Desnoyers’ height and weight?

Looks like he skipped the measurements. It was reported that he would skip the physical testing.

 

[Roasted Nuts]

Looks like he skipped the measurements. It was reported that he would skip the physical testing.

Strange, it would be reasonable given his injury to skip the physical test, but not the body measurements. Perhaps he is purposely trying to tank his stock and fall so he could be drafted by the Canadians.

 

[Zarzh]

And what is the list of those players? NHL drafting is extremely difficult to do above any average standard outcomes. Which is self-evident because no front office shows uniquely gifted aptitude in drafting outcomes long term. Even the best make massive judgment errors every single draft.

That's mostly because analytics in the NHL were 50 years behind every other sport for quite a while. The public discourse is still in its absolute infancy to put it nicely, but you'd hope the private discourse has evolved.

 

[Jared Grayden]

That's mostly because analytics in the NHL were 50 years behind every other sport for quite a while. The public discourse is still in its absolute infancy to put it nicely, but you'd hope the private discourse has evolved.

It's also the nature of the league being far more chaotic than at least the other big three. But I do agree, hockey itself lags behind in some ways. Seems like a lot more data tracking will be available in the near future as tech. sophistication increases to remove the drudgery of counting and tracking stats.

 

[Hinterland]

Strange, it would be reasonable given his injury to skip the physical test, but not the body measurements. Perhaps he is purposely trying to tank his stock and fall so he could be drafted by the Canadians.

No point staying longer in Buffalo just for the measurements. Desnoyers already announced he's there just to talk to teams and is gonna skip the fitness part (which also includes the measurements). He also has to see doctors, physios and has to get imaging done for his wrist injury. I don't think he has time to waste and teams who doubting his size had the opportunity to meet him earlier.

 

[VIPettersson]

Yeah, except go read all 50 pages of the Lane Hutson thread or watch NFL combine week discuss hand size for 4 hours straight - sports fans are way more concerned about dudes' measurements than women are.

I mean in the sense of height accuracy and verification within the NHL. You see many guys listed usually a few inches taller than they actually are.

 

[rocketdan9]

No point staying longer in Buffalo just for the measurements. Desnoyers already announced he's there just to talk to teams and is gonna skip the fitness part (which also includes the measurements). He also has to see doctors, physios and has to get imaging done for his wrist injury.

I wonder if this slows down his progression - to start next season on the right foot.

Or if he is going to require surgery (hopefully not)

I got to give it to Desnoyers. He emptied his tank this past season. Not many 17/18 year olds can tell the same story.

If he can raise his pace/skating explosiveness - to another notch. He will be a good one/high floor.

 

[Hinterland]

I wonder if this slows down his progression - to start next season on the right foot.

Or if he is going to require surgery (hopefully not)

I got to give it to Desnoyers. He emptied his tank this past season. Not many 17/18 year olds can tell the same story.

If he can raise his pace/skating explosiveness - to another notch. He will be a good one/high floor.

The last info wasn't very promising to be honest. It's mid June and he needs to get more imaging done, doesn't even know the extent of the injury and how it's gonna get treated. It's gonna impact his next season for sure because either way he won't be able to do normal offseason training. Could be way worse than that though and we can only hope that at least he doesn't need surgery and the wrist is gonna be back at 100% come training camp.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Looks like he skipped the measurements. It was reported that he would skip the physical testing.

That’s what I was worried about.

I don’t think Desnoyers is his listed 6’2” at all, so the measurement can only hurt him.

 

[rocketdan9]

The last info wasn't very promising to be honest. It's mid June and he needs to get more imaging done, doesn't even know the extent of the injury and how it's gonna get treated. It's gonna impact his next season for sure because either way he won't be able to do normal offseason training. Could be way worse than that though and we can only hope that at least he doesn't need surgery and the wrist is gonna be back at 100% come training camp.

This is true.

Apparently the injury started in November? In hindsight, it could have been a bad call to not take it more seriously/fix the issue earlier.

 

[Hinterland]

This is true.

Apparently the injury started in November? In hindsight, it could have been a bad call to not take it more seriously/fix the issue earlier.

Sure sounds like it. Either way I think it's a very bad sign that this happened in November and they still need to do more imaging, more testing, still don't know how to treat the injury. I hope they at least made sure that playing through it didn't make it any worse.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Do we seriously not have heights and weights yet??? These aren’t the dang Epstein files

The Hockey Writers have a list of Combine heights and weights, both EP and Combine bio's. I put their table into alphabetical order from their last name as well as sharing the difference between the NHL combine bio from the EP bio. (In case you didn't want to use the ctrl+F function to find a player.) We get to see if there was growth or mismeasurement, since the NHL combine is the recent measuring of height and weight.

2025 NHL Combine Heights & Weights - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More​

 

[bigdog16]

The Hockey Writers have a list of Combine heights and weights, both EP and Combine bio's. I put their table into alphabetical order from their last name as well as sharing the difference between the NHL combine bio from the EP bio. (In case you didn't want to use the ctrl+F function to find a player.) We get to see if there was growth or mismeasurement, since the NHL combine is the recent measuring of height and weight.

2025 NHL Combine Heights & Weights - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More​

Spence down from 6'2" 201 as advertised to 6' .75" 190.

 

[kmwtrucks]

I wonder if Misa having somewhat AVG showing in the physical portion and not really having any elite skills. has a lot of AVG to Above Avg. not being in the top 25 in any drill when only 70 did them. could he fall from 2?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I wonder if Misa having somewhat AVG showing in the physical portion and not really having any elite skills. has a lot of AVG to Above Avg. not being in the top 25 in any drill when only 70 did them. could he fall from 2?

I mean probably not. Sam Bennett couldn't do a pull up and now everyone sees him as this beast.

Other than getting to interview the prospects and get an official height/weight, the other tests basically just make sure a kid isn't totally out of shape.

 

[STL fan in MN]

I wonder if Misa having somewhat AVG showing in the physical portion and not really having any elite skills. has a lot of AVG to Above Avg. not being in the top 25 in any drill when only 70 did them. could he fall from 2?

No, not unless he showed poor effort or something. Maybe if this was for a track and field draft it’d impact him but go back all the years and I don’t see a ton of correlation between who did well/poorly in the Combine and being a good/poor hockey player.

If anything, it could signal the opposite as it’d probably show the scouts he has a longer runway than some of the other guys. He’s dominating now, just wait until his body catches up. Then he should be even better.

 

[rocketdan9]

I wonder if Misa having somewhat AVG showing in the physical portion and not really having any elite skills. has a lot of AVG to Above Avg. not being in the top 25 in any drill when only 70 did them. could he fall from 2?

I think Misa and Schaefer assume they are shoe ins to be picked in the top 2. So as long as they are not in the last pack - the test results for them won't make much of a difference.

Still, I give brownie points to prior combine top prospects like Celebrini. Who still went all out and placed in the top 5 for V02 max.

 

[coooldude]

I mean probably not. Sam Bennett couldn't do a pull up and now everyone sees him as this beast.

Other than getting to interview the prospects and get an official height/weight, the other tests basically just make sure a kid isn't totally out of shape.

Yeah, it's a bit about their training dedication, but also just a marker in their path to development. Is Frondell fully matured and that's why he beasted the bike exercises, or is he doughy and young and STILL beasted the exercises meaning there's a huge runway? Is Misa fully mature and topped out as a mediocre pro athlete with average traits, or is he still maturing and right outside the top 25 in everything? The Sam Bennett example - is someone physically immature yet you can already see a power game developing, which is super promising once they mature? Or like Leonard - he was beasting kids but is he already near his peak?

The results aren't seen in a vacuum but as a data point in the development process.

Even more -- how did these guys do on all the (private) cognitive testing that teams are doing now and will probably become standard central scouting tests in like 5-10 years? Misa has great hands and pretty quick decision making, which everyone will agree is critical in hockey but no combine tests indicate it. Maybe he's top 1% in the S2 testing. Or maybe not.

 

[FlyguyOX]

Bennett was injured or very recently coming off injured. I thought everyone knew that context around the pull-up.

 

[Brodeur]

Overheard at the NHL draft combine: Draft wild cards, surprises ... and the X factor team

The first round is shaping up to be quite unpredictable. Here's the latest buzz from NHL execs.

www.espn.com

Found this snippet interesting. It's unfortunate that teams (understandably) only release footage of generic questions from interviews.

The purpose of a combine is to put your best foot forward.

But that doesn't preclude some missteps from the past from reappearing.

Such was the case in certain team interviews, where execs asked prospects to break down footage of themselves from the season. And the videos weren't exactly positive.

"Pittsburgh did that," Moose Jaw Warriors forward Lynden Lakovic said. "They didn't show my highlights; they probably showed my lowlights, but asked me to break that down. It was good. I thought I handled it well. They weren't my greatest clips, but I'm aware of that, and I thought I broke it down pretty well."

Carlos Handel was similarly caught off guard by seeing his poor plays return front and center during the meet and greets.

"Carolina did that," the Halifax Mooseheads defenseman said. "They showed me some bad clips, and wanted, for example, how I react [to it], but also they wanted to know how my coach, for example, wants me to attack there and what my opinion about that [play] was."

If nothing else, these interviews kept prospects on their toes throughout the week.

"Most of the [talks] were fun," Lakovic said. "But there were a couple ones that were a little bit more intimidating."

It would be interesting to see how teams process the prospect's reaction. Vaguely recall hearing things like teams not liking it if the prospect was combative in his response. Teams can't expect a teenager to be perfect on the ice but they probably are using the response as a window into his personality.