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NHL Board of Governors approves sale of Coyotes and relocation to Salt Lake City (Mod warning post #157)

hockeyboy1923 said:
Phoenix is the 10th largest MSA but it is also the 4th fastest growing in the country. The NHL pulling out of this market is a huge mistake for hockey.

Utah is the 50th largest MSA.

At the end of the day, this may have been a win for Utah and certain NHL owners but this is a loss for hockey popularity in the US which is what *should* matter to the NHL. If the NHL wants to grow in an increasingly competitive sports market in the US, it needs to do more to expand popularity of the sport. Otherwise it will continue to lose popularity to football, basketball and soccer.

Just look at management of the MLS compared to the NHL. The MLS is actively looking to cut deals to expand into new locations and bring in big players. They are actually making decisions that benefit not just the league but also soccer in the US. The MLS is going to eat the NHLs lunch unless they start making smarter decisions. To be honest, I don't have much confidence the NHL will figure it out.
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The NHL did everything they could to stay in the state for decades.

If there is truly a NHL sized appetite for hockey in Arizona then the state has 5 years to make it happen. If they can't, then it wasn't meant to be.
There are a lot of cities that would be salivating at the opportunity the NHL has given them.

Of course MLS is going to be more popular in the US than the NHL. Long term it is the NFL that needs to be concerned with the MLS, not the NHL or NBA.

Bandit said:
5,999 of them being corporations and scalpers looking to sell them at inflated prices.
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And you know that how?

Either way, the tickets are sold.
 
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Sucks for Coyotes fans but ultimately something had to be done. Hopefully the franchise can build something better there.
 
Was there not a press conference? I get they have the offseason to hype it up but I guess I see nothing online, was working late and I don't have my TV on.

Hopefully an arena can get built without draining the taxpayers somewhere in Arizona and the Coyotes can make a comeback.
 
Knave said:
Was there not a press conference? I get they have the offseason to hype it up but I guess I see nothing online, was working late and I don't have my TV on.

Hopefully an arena can get built without draining the taxpayers somewhere in Arizona and the Coyotes can make a comeback.
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I’m thinking a Press Conference will occur after the Regular Season ends and before the playoffs begin
 
Weztex said:
Here's hoping for a name that

1) is unique among major sports leagues
2) isn't the name of a particular animal
3) is a single word
4) has ties with the culture or symbols of the place
5) isn't a silly name marketed to kids
6) rolls well off the tongue

Utah Stingers?
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Utah Aspen

Utah Black Bears

Utah Elk
 
Gnova said:
The NHL did everything they could to stay in the state for decades.

If there is truly a NHL sized appetite for hockey in Arizona then the state has 5 years to make it happen. If they can't, then it wasn't meant to be.
There are a lot of cities that would be salivating at the opportunity the NHL has given them.

Of course MLS is going to be more popular in the US than the NHL. Long term it is the NFL that needs to be concerned with the MLS, not the NHL or NBA.


And you know that how?

Either way, the tickets are sold.
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Just common sense. Obviously I’m being hyperbolic about the numbers but the average family doesn’t have the kind of disposable capital to jump on an opportunity that fast. Deep pockets do.
 
BCNate said:
Sucks for Coyotes fans, I feel for you. We lost the Grizzlies in Vancouver and I still wish we'd get another NBA team. It was time though, the league couldn't wait aother 5 years with them playing in that rink. Hopefully they get their act together, Pheonix is awesome, and being able to tie an NHL game into a trip was always fun.

Stoked for SLC though, such an awesome place with tons to do within an hour drive. Nice to see the league head into a true winter town again.
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Living in Toronto, the NBA has never felt the same to me since the Grizzlies left Vancouver. Or the Expos leaving MLB, for that matter.

Sucks we don't even have 1 Canadian "rival" to play against. I know it's a small difference going from 2 teams to 1, but both leagues feel fully American to me.

I was much more invested when we had at least 2 Canadian teams.

FunkySeeFunkyDo said:
The Utah Diggity Dogs?
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Arena to be nicknamed "The Bun".
 
As a railroader who has worked in Utah, I think they should embrace the States long history of railroading. I mean the Golden Spike where the Union Pacific and Southern Pacific connected the East and West together is in Utah.
Utah Locomotive would be perfect.
 
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Should have just let Bassillie move them to Hamilton when he wanted to. Although he's probably broke now thst blackberry is totally irrelevant
 
MVP Zacha said:
As a railroader who has worked in Utah, I think they should embrace the States long history of railroading. I mean the Golden Spike where the Union Pacific and Southern Pacific connected the East and West together is in Utah.
Utah Locomotive would be perfect.
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Call them the Moguls and use the picture of the locomotive.
 
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red devil said:
Lou has an idea for a team name

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Oh boy..I'm hoping "Utah HC" and "Utah Hockey Club" are either just there for legal reasons or the interm tag until they pick a real name. Way too "soccer team" for an NHL franchise. Blizzard is ok if you want to troll the Avs, other than that, not liking any of them much
 
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Gnova said:
The NHL did everything they could to stay in the state for decades.

If there is truly a NHL sized appetite for hockey in Arizona then the state has 5 years to make it happen. If they can't, then it wasn't meant to be.
There are a lot of cities that would be salivating at the opportunity the NHL has given them.

Of course MLS is going to be more popular in the US than the NHL. Long term it is the NFL that needs to be concerned with the MLS, not the NHL or NBA.


And you know that how?

Either way, the tickets are sold.
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Phoenix has plenty of appetite for hockey and is fertile ground for growth. It is the 10th largest MSA in the country and one of the fastest growing including a significant migration from colder climates where hockey is popular. That is also supported by a rapidly growing youth hockey presence here.

The problem is not AZ, the problem is terrible management at the NHL and ownership in AZ. This is just another example of NHL mismanagement. This is a league wide problem - NHL viewership is down and even in MN where i grew up hockey is declining in popularity.

Part of the problem is the misguided mindset that us the customer are responsible for the success of the NHL and hockey. We are the customer, the NHL and NHL owners are responsible for providing a good product and promoting the sport. Unfortunately NHL owners are predominantly old money and treat it as an old boys club and keep making boneheaded decisions. Look at owners in the NBA and the MLS to see how a good sports team is run.
 
I'm really unsure if Utah will have long-term success. I don't have a good feeling about having sustained fan support
 
Bandit said:
Just common sense. Obviously I’m being hyperbolic about the numbers but the average family doesn’t have the kind of disposable capital to jump on an opportunity that fast. Deep pockets do.
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Well, corporations buying season tickets is best case scenario for a new franchise.
Corporate support is massively important in smaller markets.

When the Jets returned to Winnipeg they sold more season tickets than and more quickly. Those weren't bought up by businesses or scalpers either. Businesses weren't able to get ahold of tickets because they all went too quickly and that was a detriment to the team.
 
Gnova said:
Well, corporations buying season tickets is best case scenario for a new franchise.
Corporate support is massively important in smaller markets.

When the Jets returned to Winnipeg they sold more season tickets than and more quickly. Those weren't bought up by businesses or scalpers either. Businesses weren't able to get ahold of tickets because they all went too quickly and that was a detriment to the team.
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Maybe. I’m just at the point of my life where I’m tired of corporate success at the expense of the regular human. Corporations buying season tickets might be great for billionaire owners but what about a mom or dad who just wants to take their kid to a hockey game?
 
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hockeyboy1923 said:
Phoenix has plenty of appetite for hockey and is fertile ground for growth. It is the 10th largest MSA in the country and one of the fastest growing including a significant migration from colder climates where hockey is popular. That is also supported by a rapidly growing youth hockey presence here.

The problem is not AZ, the problem is terrible management at the NHL and ownership in AZ. This is just another example of NHL mismanagement. This is a league wide problem - NHL viewership is down and even in MN where i grew up hockey is declining in popularity.

Part of the problem is the misguided mindset that us the customer are responsible for the success of the NHL and hockey. We are the customer, the NHL and NHL owners are responsible for providing a good product and promoting the sport. Unfortunately NHL owners are predominantly old money and treat it as an old boys club and keep making boneheaded decisions. Look at owners in the NBA and the MLS to see how a good sports team is run.
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It always comes down to ownership.

Charles Wang tried and failed to get a deal done for almost 15 years. Ledecky/Malkin got a deal done in like 6 months.
 
MikeyMike01 said:
It always comes down to ownership.

Charles Wang tried and failed to get a deal done for almost 15 years. Ledecky/Malkin got a deal done in like 6 months.
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Wang was with Nassau county wasn’t it. Different county/city for where UBS arena is at.
 
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