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[GIADF]

They're a pretty good comparison since both play the right side and are separated less than a year in age. I'm not sure what Pionk's next cap hit will look like, but currently he's about 3.6M less of a hit than Jones.

I'd take Pionk plus that savings without thinking twice if given the option.

 

[BHawk21]

Yup. Find me any stat, anything that proves it.

Jones gets by on name recognition only.

Alright bury your head in the sand if you want. The contract has clouded your judgment.

They're a pretty good comparison since both play the right side and are separated less than a year in age. I'm not sure what Pionk's next cap hit will look like, but currently he's about 3.6M less of a hit than Jones.

I'd take Pionk plus that savings without thinking twice if given the option.

What kind of contract is Pionk going to get next year?

Montour got 7.1 for 7 years
Skjei got 7 for 8
Theodore got 7.5 for 7

 

[Hawkaholic]

Alright bury your head in the sand if you want. The contract has clouded your judgment.

Solid argument.

 

[GIADF]

Alright bury your head in the sand if you want. The contract has clouded your judgment.


What kind of contract is Pionk going to get next year?

Not sure, but I'd bet it's less than the Jones contract. He'll also be turning next off season 30 so I'm guessing he gets a 6-year deal at the most, which would only be one more year than what Jones has left.

 

[Callidusblackhawk]

They're a pretty good comparison since both play the right side and are separated less than a year in age. I'm not sure what Pionk's next cap hit will look like, but currently he's about 3.6M less of a hit than Jones.

I'd take Pionk plus that savings without thinking twice if given the option.

There's not going to be all that much savings after this year. The dude is on pace for like 70 points. If that keeps up he's going to get paid.

 

[BHawk21]

You would save like 2 million dollars when we dont need to save any money. Have him for 6-7 years instead of Jones for 5 and be worse (IMO).

Thats if Pionk decides he wants to go to the last place team in the league.

Solid argument.

What stat do you want me to pull that you would argue and twist?

 

[Hawkaholic]

What stat do you want me to pull that you would argue and twist?

Find me any stat, I literally said that. Are you gonna cherry pick 1 or 2, and ignore every other one?

 

[GIADF]

There's not going to be all that much savings after this year. The dude is on pace for like 70 points. If that keeps up he's going to get paid.

70 points obviously is very unlikely to be a sustainable pace for him. Even if it ends up a career year, I would imagine low 50s best case scenario for him given 45 is the most he's ever scored in a single season.

But for me it's less about specifically bringing in him and more so just getting out form the Jones contact if you can. Which is also probably highly unlikely. I'm a firm believer that Jones is going to age really poorly and it's possible the injuries are the start of that.

 

[GIADF]

Never seen a guy fined for diving before, which I'm all in favor of...

Although it's kind of funny that looks more like he just lost his balance and not a blatant dive. But they can't get headshots right, so no way they're going to get diving fines correctly.

 

[BHawk21]

Find me any stat, I literally said that. Are you gonna cherry pick 1 or 2, and ignore every other one?

Im asking you what you want and your already arguing about it.

Find any stat. Your going to cherry pick lmao

 

[Hawkaholic]

Im asking you what you want and your already arguing about it.

Find any stat. Your going to cherry pick lmao

Still waiting

 

[BHawk21]

Still waiting

You can wait as long as you want Im not going into a cherry picking stats debate with you. Seth Jones is a better NHL defenseman than Neil Pionk.

Hes has a great start to the season tho.

 

[BobbyJet]

Solid argument.

It is a solid argument. The contract sucks and every fan would agree but that should have no bearing on what to do with SJ at this point.
In my view keep Seth until someone comes knocking with a good trade offer. Don't shop him.

 

[ColbyChaos]

You guys are acting like he’s Seabrook 2.0 out there. His cap it his high but what we gave up for him ended up being next to nothing, as are most picks and prospects. We got a 45pt, 25 minute a night, top 4 Dman. We got by far the best player in the deal and we don’t have to give top pairing minutes to our young D.

Let the hate go FFS

Also, totally unrelated to my opinion of him…I met him last week. I was backing my baby out in the stroller leaving Ace Hardware and he held the door open for me. I said “hey thanks Seth Jones!”, he said “get the f*** out of my way you loser”…kidding. He said “Anytime man!”

I would buy his jersey in a heartbeat if he actually said that