NHL, Rogers Agree to New 12-Year TV Deal Worth $7.7 Billion
The NHL and Rogers have reached an agreement on a new 12-year Canadian TV agreement worth $11 billion CAD, or $7.7 billion in U.S. dollars.
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Emerica
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BonHoonLayneCornell
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Don't really care who has it, just don't want to need multiple streaming services just to watch all Ottawa games.
Holy cow. Double the current agreement. Its not uncommon for someone to negotiate exclusive negotiating windows. But its amazing they can justify that much. I was thinking that rogers was getting phased out and wouldnt be able to afford that against the streaming platforms. Must be some fascinating boardroom battles over this. So amazon not going to be a big thing then perhaps. But i guess this explains the big cap jumps coming.
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I don't get it. Wasn't Rogers losing money hand over fist on the current deal and couldn't get out of it quick enough? What changed for them to justify doubling down???
Maybe it's working out so well for Prime that Rogers expects to recoup a huge portion on a new monster deal with them, something like Prime gets all weeknight games, SN keeps HNIC and some marquee dates?
Maybe it's working out so well for Prime that Rogers expects to recoup a huge portion on a new monster deal with them, something like Prime gets all weeknight games, SN keeps HNIC and some marquee dates?
Amazon is probably better suited buying local tv rights in multiple markets. It'll be cheaper, on the whole, and they can get exposure to some of the biggest markets in the NHL. So the return on investment probably lines up better than a national deal.
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Well, the bright side is that deal adds about 10 mil to the teams revenue over and above the current deal.
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Things like this only "lose money" when it's time for unions or employees to ask for a raise.
An interesting idea that Rogers could sell some of their games to Amazon similar to how Sens fans sell their leaf tickets to recoup the huge cost they paid out.
But surely now we are well past the point of calling it a gate driven league. I cant imagine gate revenues make up the majority of revenues anymore. Which should be a good thing for small markets
But surely now we are well past the point of calling it a gate driven league. I cant imagine gate revenues make up the majority of revenues anymore. Which should be a good thing for small markets
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It's an almost certainty. They were crying about the current deal which was half the price. There's a slim chance they partner with someone other than Amazon but very slim.
My guess would be they made the deal with Amazon while they had exclusive bargaining power with the NHL to ensure they keep at least some NHL games but needed Amazon to pay most of the bill. IF they don't sign a deal in their exclusive window, Amazon could win the contract out right.
Amazon did it because if they waited until they were in a position to negotiate, Rogers might have signed a deal without them or they'd be fighting off other bids from Apple or Netflix.
The NHL did this because they doubled the old deal and they don't want to migrate completely away from the legacy broadcasters just yet.
You're going to see less Rogers games going forward and more Amazon games with the new deal. I'm looking forward to playoff games on Prime.
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Are you in Ottawa? Basic cable($25) with the sports package($20) gets me every game...
Oh, I guess now you need prime for Monday's....but I have that. Lol
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My guess is that Joe Fan is going to have to pay to watch more games in the future. It's coming.
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Right now it's like $40/month with subs to TSN and Sportsnet. You could throw on the $120 cost of Amazon Prime but I was paying that already before they started showing NHL games.
20 years ago, I was paying close to $100/month for cable, after the cost of PVRs/cable boxes factored in, plus $200/year for NHL Centre Ice so that I could watch the Saturday night games that CBC wouldn't air.
The cost of watching Senators hockey on tv has been a great deal for quite some time now. Factor in inflation and it's cheaper than it's ever been to watch ALL the games.
That being said, I don't think you'll see Rogers increasing the cost much. Maybe $5/month. They likely know that their subscribers are price sensitive and will bolt if they try gauging them too badly.
Yes, get ready for Sportsnet plus / tv service to go up by at least 5 bucks a month. Makes me want to stick to streaming TSN for the Sens games and paying an extra $2 a month for crave.
There's a lot of truth to that. When I was going through my bill with Bell Aliant last fall it jumped out at me how much Internet has gone up in price as a stand alone and how TV was packaged as after thought. It makes sense that they would do that given how things have shifted to streaming away from conventional TV. In fact given how many specialty channels have gone out of business it would make sense that that the only meaningful costs to carry TV would be the 2 sports networks.
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No Im in the Yukon, so I need the out of market hockey package. For about 25 years Ive had center ice or now the Sportsnet Premium sub for all Ottawa games. With Prime getting a couple games this year, I was able to just use free first month prime offers for those few games, but dont sub to Prime otherwise.
Im just bitching. I watch the Lakers too, and recently when trying to figure out how to watch all their games and not rely on free streams as much, I was faced with needing 3 paid subs for I think $65/month total. Needless to say I didnt do it and rely on other means to watch anything not on Sportsnet Premium. But its not the money for me so much, these arent large costs, I just hate being forced into it and dont like supporting it.
Im also probably in the minority about their coverage too. Its all the same to me whether Rogers or Amazon because I dont want to watch any "coverage" or analysis, I just skip to puck drop and only watch the 60 mins of game time typically.
The video and sound quality of Prime broadcasts is noticeably better than the traditional broadcasters. I also like that you can tune into the game late and there's an option to start the game from the beginning and skip through commercials/stoppages to get caught up. Don't have to worry about recording the game or owning recording hardware.
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Same...I don't care who broadcasts...I rarely watch pre game or intermissions or post game, and like you, I skip to puckdrop when the whistle goes...so I don't even bother with the 20 seconds in between whistles...
So who cares about broadcasting product? Unless it's video or audio issues, I don't care after whistle entertainment.
With all these different streaming apps, someone should create a company where they pay each app a fee to carry them. Then they can bundle all the apps together and just charge you one fee for everything all together.
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Prime would be ideal because it's so cheap, and a lot of people already have it so it is a sunk cost. Hopefully, they get our regional package, which is up next year. If Prime is in bed with Rogers, maybe they could make a deal to simulcast games. As in, Prime gets the regional rights and works out a deal to get the rights to simulcast the national Sens games.
With that said, a lot of people in Canada still don't have reliable internet in terms of speed, or they have speed but there are data caps. It was more of an issue 10-15 years ago, when people living in Carp couldn't even get proper internet until Bell laid down fibre optic cables. So while it is a small segment of fans, some people won't like the change to streaming.
BonHoonLayneCornell
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Ya I suppose superior PQ and AQ is something I can agree matters. Hard to say it doesn't when I've spent over 40k on 4K electronics for my living room and home theater. Although compared to the cable I ditched this year, I do find Sportsnet+ is better than that, so from my perspective it was an improvement, but better is always appreciated, so fair point.
The recording and being able to start from the beginning is how Sportsnet Premium works as well. I rarely watch games at start time since I'm on the west coast. I'm out of market though, so being in market I guess it'd be TSN you're referring to.
I suppose in general, if Prime got more games, I could adapt and stomach paying for prime as it would feel like a requirement, but as it stands, I would only need it solely for like 2-3 Senators games a year. That's just annoying imo. Although getting free trials so often meant it was free anyways other than I think 1 I had to go to the high seas for, so maybe I'm just bitching prematurely.
After this many years of doing it, I can't imagine tuning in to a whole broadcast every time. Unbearable. Games are 1 hour to 1.5 hours instead of almost 3. If Lakers and Sens play same night it's like 2-3 hours instead of 5-6. That's huge with free time being so precious. Playoffs I'll let it ride more, and sometimes I'm cooking or whatever and do just let it run, but in general I have zero interest in any of that stuff. Ads, anthems, commentary, generic player interviews, Booboo blowing hot air... ya no thanks.
It would never happen, but I'd love it if they offered a compressed 60 minute replay of 100% puck drop action only. I'd pay more for that product.
