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NHL 13 Player Ratings

EA:
McDonald 84 - Backes 85 - Oshie 84
Perron 84 - Berglund 83 - Stewart 83
Steen 83 - Schwartz 76 - Tarasenko 76
Sobotka 79 - Nichol 77 - Langenbrunner 80
Reaves 78 / Crombeen 78

Cole 78 - Pietrangelo 85
Jackman 83 - Shattenkirk 83
Russel 81 - Polak 82

Halak 88
Elliott 83

Me:
McDonald 85 - Backes 87 - Oshie 84
Perron 84 - Berglund 83 - Stewart 83
Steen 84 - Schwartz 81 - Tarasenko 81
Sobotka 82 - Nichol 79 - Langenbrunner 80
Reaves 80 / Crombeen 79

Cole 80 - Pietrangelo 89
Jackman 83 - Shattenkirk 84
Russel 81 - Polak 83

Halak 88
Elliott 84
 
My expected EA Ratings for Goalies (w/ a few additions)


92: Jonathan Quick, Henrik Lundqvist

91: Pekka Rinne

90: Carey Price, Cam Ward, Ryan Miller

89: Niklas Backstrom, Jaro Halak, Antti Niemi, Mike Smith, Tim Thomas, Roberto Luongo

88: Jimmy Howard, Tuukka Rask, Martin Brodeur, Corey Schneider, Miikka Kiprusoff, Marc-André Fleury

87: Brian Elliot, Ilya Bryzgalov, Kari Lehtonen, Jonas Hiller

86: Craig Anderson, Ondrej Pavelec

85: Corey Crawford, Semyon Varlamov, Tomas Vokoun

84: Braden Holtby, Jean-Sebastien Giguere, James Reimer, Michal Neuvirth, Jonathan Bernier

83: Devan Dubnyk, Evgeni Nabokov, Josh Harding, Jose Theodore

82: Sergei Bobrovsky, Scott Clemmensen, Nikolai Khabibulin, Johan Hedberg, Martin Biron, Rick DiPietro

81: Mathieu Garon, Curtis Sanford, Brent Johnson, Jonas Gustavsson, Jhonas Enroth, Ray Emery, Chris Mason, Thomas Greiss,

80: Steve Mason, Anders Lindback, Peter Budaj, Dwayne Roloson, Richard Bachman, Ben Bishop, Robin Lehner, Dan Ellis, Robin Lehner, Jacob Markstrom

79: Anton Khudobin, Al Montoya, Ben Scrivens, Joey MacDonald,
 
Lightning

Purcell 85(C)-Stamkos 93(B-)-St. Louis 89(C)
Connolly 80(B)-Lecavalier 89(C)-Malone 85(C)
Pouliot 81(C)-Thompson 82(C)-Brown 78(B)
Wyman 79(C)-Hall 81(C)-Pyatt 79(C)

Hedman 85(B)-Carle 84(C)
Brewer 84(C)-Salo 82(D)
Lee 80(B-)-Mikkelson 78(B-)
Aulie 78(B-)
Ohlund 83 (IR)(c)

Lindback 84(B)
Garon 84(C)

Some prospects

Conacher 78(B)
Panik 74(B)
Killorn 74(B)
Barbeiro 76(B)
Gudas 76(B-)
Namestnikov 74(B-)
Tokarski 78(B-)

Our other Russian prospects wont appear so wont estimate.
 
Franzen(87)-Datsyuk(93)-Bertuzzi(82)
Filppula(85)-Zetterberg(92)-Samuelsson(83)
Nyquist(76)-Helm(82)-Cleary(81)
Tootoo(81)-Abdelkader(80)-Miller(79)

Kronwall(87)-White(82)
Quincey(82)-Ericsson(81)
Smith(79)-Kindl(80)

Howard (87)
Gustafsson(81)

I gave Kronwall and Filppula expected raised, but this should indicate to everyone how subpar our team is right now.
 
I'm a badass and will make ratings for team Finland.
(Using EA's NHL 12 Line-Up/Roster)

Hagman (80) - O. Jokinen (85) - Miettinen (81)
Filppula (85) - S. Koivu (80) - T. Selänne (86)
J. Jokinen (83) - M. Koivu (88) - T. Ruutu (84)
Immonen (79) - Peltonen (77) - J. Ruutu (77)

Timonen (85) - Pitkänen (84)
Lydman (81) - Salo (80)
Lepistö (77) - Niskala (75)
Kukkonen (74)

Kiprusoff (87)
Backstrom (87)
Niittymäki (80)
 
jmdubois585 said:
Expected Ratings for Goalies

93: Jonathan Quick
92: Henrik Lundqvist
91: Tim Thomas, Roberto Luongo, Pekka Rinne, Ryan Miller, Martin Brodeur
90: Carey Price, Jaro Halak, Marc-André Fleury, Mikka Kiprussof, Cam Ward
89: Brian Elliot, Jimmy Howard, Corey Schneider, Antti Niemi, Mike Smith
88: Tuuka Rask, Kari Lehtonen, Niklas Backstrom, Jonas Hiller, Ondrej Pavelec
87: Ilya Bryzgalov, Semyon Varlamov, Jonathan Bernier
86: Craig Anderson, Jose Theodore, Devan Dubnyk
85: Corey Crawford, James Reimer, Michal Neuvirth, Jonas Gustavsson, Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Johan Hedberg
84: Evgeni Nabokov, Mathieu Garon, Tomas Vokoun, Scott Clemmensen, Nikolai Khabibulin, Brent Johnson, Braden Holtby
83: Sergei Bobrovsky, Steve Mason, Josh Harding, Ben Scrivens
82: Curtis Sanford, Anders Lindback, Peter Budaj

I think these ratings are pretty fair, maybe I overrate Cam Ward & Ryan Miller and underrate Tomas Vokoun & Peter Budaj, but I think these ratings will be similar to what EA will use. Maybe -1 overall to all of them, but the range will be pretty similar. I know I forgot some goalies but most of them that have been forgotten are because I didn't watch them that much so I would be underating them.
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There should be a -1 to all of them like you said, too many 90'ish goalies, but other than that I think these are fairly good and accurate with few exceptions:

Should be lower/worse (bolded):

Martin Brodeur
Although had very good playoffs, he's just not a top 10 goalie in the NHL anymore. Just look at his regular season stats. He's not even in the top 30! My rating: 87 (Just because the playoff performance)

Jonathan Bernier
This guy has played whopping 48 games through his four seasons in the NHL. Last year he played 16 games with an amazing .909 SV% and now he's suddenly 87 OVR. Seriously dafug man!? My rating: 83

Jonas Gustavsson
Pretty much the same as with Bernier, but in 107 games "The Monster" has posted a SV% of .900 and GAA of 2.98. Just playing for the Maple Leafs isn't an excuse. My rating: 82

Ondrej Pavelec
Just because he got a nice contract he's now 88? He had a.906 SV% last year. Actually, rather saying why he should be lower I'd like you to explain what makes him so high on your list. My rating 85

Should be better/higher (underlined):

Jose Theodore
You may say that I'm biased, but the stats should still speak for themselves. He was 18th in the NHL in both SV% and GAA while playing 53 games. He had better stats than Price, Miller, Ward, Niemi, Fleury etc. I don't think he's better than all of those but IMO it's just that plain wrong that he's (so much) behind/on the same level as goalies like: Bernier, Brodeur, Hiller, Pavelec etc.
I don't think his OVR rating should be that much higher, but just others are way too high compared. My rating: 87-86

Tomas Vokoun
This guy had his worst season in 5 years and posted a record of 25-17-2, with a .917 SV% and 2.51 GAA. So why on earth is he now a 84? He should be challenging M-A Fleury for the starter role and not just be a decent back-up. My rating: 87-86

No offense, but while reading your list multiple times and writing my own thoughts I realized this list isn't that good after all IMO. :laugh: Not totally bad, but there are pretty much to change still. Therefore I stopped making these arguments any further since there are just too many thing I disagree about.

-L-
 
jmdubois585 said:
Expected Ratings for Goalies

93: Jonathan Quick
92: Henrik Lundqvist
91: Tim Thomas, Roberto Luongo, Pekka Rinne, Ryan Miller, Martin Brodeur
90: Carey Price, Jaro Halak, Marc-André Fleury, Mikka Kiprussof, Cam Ward
89: Brian Elliot, Jimmy Howard, Corey Schneider, Antti Niemi, Mike Smith
88: Tuuka Rask, Kari Lehtonen, Niklas Backstrom, Jonas Hiller, Ondrej Pavelec
87: Ilya Bryzgalov, Semyon Varlamov, Jonathan Bernier
86: Craig Anderson, Jose Theodore, Devan Dubnyk
85: Corey Crawford, James Reimer, Michal Neuvirth, Jonas Gustavsson, Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Johan Hedberg
84: Evgeni Nabokov, Mathieu Garon, Tomas Vokoun, Scott Clemmensen, Nikolai Khabibulin, Brent Johnson, Braden Holtby
83: Sergei Bobrovsky, Steve Mason, Josh Harding, Ben Scrivens
82: Curtis Sanford, Anders Lindback, Peter Budaj

I think these ratings are pretty fair, maybe I overrate Cam Ward & Ryan Miller and underrate Tomas Vokoun & Peter Budaj, but I think these ratings will be similar to what EA will use. Maybe -1 overall to all of them, but the range will be pretty similar. I know I forgot some goalies but most of them that have been forgotten are because I didn't watch them that much so I would be underating them.
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The only ones I disagree with.
Brodeur was an 83 in NHL 12 and I don't expect EA to boost him that much and disagree with themselves. Nabokov was an 89 last year and had a decent season so that drop seems extreme. And then I just don't think EA is dumb enough to make Gustavsson that good. But who knows?

Oh yeah, didn't see Bernier there. Very questionable
 
LA Kings?

FORWARDS
Dustin Brown (84) / Anze Kopitar (89) / Justin Williams (83)
Simon Gagne (80) / Mike Richards (84) / Jeff Carter (83)
Dustin Penner (79) / Jarret Stoll (80) / Trevor Lewis (77)
Jordan Nolan (77) / Colin Fraser (75) / Dwight King (78)
Kyle Clifford (74) / Brad Richardson (73) / Kevin Westgarth (70)
DEFENSEMEN
Drew Doughty (90) / Rob Scuderi (78)
Slava Voynov (83) / Willie Mitchell (80)
Matt Greene (78) / Alec Martinez (79)
Davis Drewiske (72) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Quick (92)
Jonathan Bernier (80)

Any thoughts?
 
I've wanted harsher/more dramatic differences for a long time.


Devils:


Kovalchuk (93) - Zajac (86) - RW NEEDED
Zubrus (81) - Henrique (83) - Clarkson (82)
Josefson (79) - Elias (87) - (Sykora?) (82)
Carter (77) - S.Gionta (75) - Bernier (75)
Barch (71) & Janssen (68)

Salvador (84) - Zidlicky (83)
Greene (83) - Fayne (82)
Volchenkov (82) - Larsson (79)
Tallinder (83)

Brodeur (85)
Hedberg (83)
 
Minor Boarding said:
LA Kings?

FORWARDS
Dustin Brown (84) / Anze Kopitar (89) / Justin Williams (83)
Simon Gagne (80) / Mike Richards (84) / Jeff Carter (83)
Dustin Penner (79) / Jarret Stoll (80) / Trevor Lewis (77)
Jordan Nolan (77) / Colin Fraser (75) / Dwight King (78)
Kyle Clifford (74) / Brad Richardson (73) / Kevin Westgarth (70)
DEFENSEMEN
Drew Doughty (90) / Rob Scuderi (78)
Slava Voynov (83) / Willie Mitchell (80)
Matt Greene (78) / Alec Martinez (79)
Davis Drewiske (72) /
GOALTENDERS
Jonathan Quick (92)
Jonathan Bernier (80)

Any thoughts?
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You underrated A LOT of players here. I bolded the ones that will definitely be rated higher and underlined the ones that will be lower. This is EA here.
 
yakitate304 said:
I've wanted harsher/more dramatic differences for a long time.


Devils:


Kovalchuk (93) - Zajac (86) - RW NEEDED
Zubrus (81) - Henrique (83) - Clarkson (82)
Josefson (79) - Elias (87) - (Sykora?) (82)
Carter (77) - S.Gionta (75) - Bernier (75)
Barch (71) & Janssen (68)

Salvador (84) - Zidlicky (83)
Greene (83) - Fayne (82)
Volchenkov (82) - Larsson (79)
Tallinder (83)

Brodeur (85)
Hedberg (83)
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Sounds about right, but Janssen will probably be higher (not too important since he's an extra)
 
C: Hodgson (82B), Ennis (85B-), Porter (78C), McCormick (78C), Grigorenko (Wildcard? Somewhere between 74-80B)
LW: Vanek (88C), Leino (81C), Ott (83C), Gerbe (82C), Foligno (79-83B-), Adam (77B-)
RW: Pominville (89C), Stafford (83C), Kaleta (79C), Tropp (77B-/C)
D: Myers (85B), Regehr (83C-), Ehrhoff (84C), Sekera (83C), Leopold (81C) Sulzer (79C), Weber (80B-), McNabb (77B/B-), Pardy (78C)
G: Miller (90C), Enroth (81B)
 
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yakitate304 said:
I've wanted harsher/more dramatic differences for a long time.


Devils:


Kovalchuk (87) - Zajac (80) - RW NEEDED
Zubrus (77) - Henrique (79) - Clarkson (78)
Josefson (75) - Elias (83) - (Sykora?) (77)
Carter (74) - S.Gionta (74) - Bernier (74)
Barch (74) & Janssen (72)

Salvador (77) - Zidlicky (78)
Greene (77) - Fayne (76)
Volchenkov (79) - Larsson (77)
Tallinder (78)

Brodeur (85)
Hedberg (81)
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THAT'S harsher and more realistic
 
jmdubois585 said:
Expected Ratings for Goalies

93: Jonathan Quick
92: Henrik Lundqvist
91: Tim Thomas, Roberto Luongo, Pekka Rinne, Ryan Miller, Martin Brodeur
90: Carey Price, Jaro Halak, Marc-André Fleury, Mikka Kiprussof, Cam Ward
89: Brian Elliot, Jimmy Howard, Corey Schneider, Antti Niemi, Mike Smith
88: Tuuka Rask, Kari Lehtonen, Niklas Backstrom, Jonas Hiller, Ondrej Pavelec
87: Ilya Bryzgalov, Semyon Varlamov, Jonathan Bernier
86: Craig Anderson, Jose Theodore, Devan Dubnyk
85: Corey Crawford, James Reimer, Michal Neuvirth, Jonas Gustavsson, Jean-Sebastien Giguere, Johan Hedberg
84: Evgeni Nabokov, Mathieu Garon, Tomas Vokoun, Scott Clemmensen, Nikolai Khabibulin, Brent Johnson, Braden Holtby
83: Sergei Bobrovsky, Steve Mason, Josh Harding, Ben Scrivens
82: Curtis Sanford, Anders Lindback, Peter Budaj

I think these ratings are pretty fair, maybe I overrate Cam Ward & Ryan Miller and underrate Tomas Vokoun & Peter Budaj, but I think these ratings will be similar to what EA will use. Maybe -1 overall to all of them, but the range will be pretty similar. I know I forgot some goalies but most of them that have been forgotten are because I didn't watch them that much so I would be underating them.
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92: Henrik Lundqvist, Jonathan Quick
91: Roberto Luongo, Pekka Rinne, Ryan Miller
90: Carey Price, Mikka Kiprussof, Cam Ward, Tim Thomas
89: Jimmy Howard, Corey Schneider, Jaro Halak, Marc-André Fleury
88: Tuuka Rask, Kari Lehtonen, Craig Anderson
87: Jonas Hiller, Ondrej Pavelec, Niklas Backstrom
86: Martin Brodeur, Evgeni Nabokov, Semyon Varlamov
85: Corey Crawford, Michal Neuvirth, Antti Niemi, Jose Theodore
84: Tomas Vokoun, Nikolai Khabibulin, Brian Elliot, Mike Smith, Devan Dubnyk, Jean-Sebastien Giguere
83: Sergei Bobrovsky, Josh Harding, Johan Hedberg, Ilya Bryzgalov, James Reimer, Braden Holtby, Scott Clemmensen
82: Curtis Sanford, Anders Lindback, Jonathan Bernier, Jonas Gustavsson, Mathieu Garon, Steve Mason
78: Ben Scrivens, Peter Budaj, Brent Johnson

Fixed
 
Latendresse (82) - Spezza (90) - Michalek (85)
Silfverberg (78) - Turris (83) - Alfredsson (84)
Greening (82) - Regin (79) - Neil (82)
O'Brien (79) - Smith (81) - Zibanejad (77)
Butler (79), Hoffman (76)

Methot (81) - Karlsson (90)
Cowen (81) - Gonchar (83)
Phillips (82) - Lundin (79)
Boroweicki (76)

Anderson (88)
Bishop (80)
Lehner (79)
 
McGinn (79) - Stastny (86) - Jones (83)
Parenteau (83) - Duchene (86) - Hejduk (80)
Landeskog (83) - O'Reilly (84) - Downie (81)
McLeod (78) - Mitchell (78) - Kobasew (78)
Olver (76)

Hejda (82) - Johnson (87)
Wilson (79) - O'Byrne (81)
O'Brien (79) - Zanon (79)
Hunwick (78)

Varlamov (84)
Giguere (81)
 
#57 said:
THAT'S harsher and more realistic
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Only 15 points of separation between Kovalchuk and Cam Janssen?

In my opinion, the guys in the upper tier should be in the low 90s - the Stamkos/Kovalchuk type players. Crosby/Malkin and a very choice few above 95. And the guys who can't skate, can't handle the puck, or do anything else but hit/fight (Janssen) should be in the 60s. Skilled AHL and even high end CHL players should be rated higher than them. I love Janssen too, and I think he has a good role, but going by skills he is as unskilled as it gets.

Also, there's no way Larsson is already as good as Andy Greene who has been one of our top pairing defensemen for the last 2-3 years. Certainly not already better than Fayne.
 
Jussi Jokinen (83, C)- Eric Staal (89, C)- Jordan Staal (87,C)
Jiri Tlusty(81,C)-Jeff Skinner(83,B)-Tuomu Ruutu (83,C)
Andreas Nodl(77,C)-Tim Brent (78,C)-Chad LaRose (80, C)
Patrick Dwyer (74,C)-Rask (76,B)-Anthony Stewart(81,C)

Joe Corvo (83,C-)-Justin Faulk (80,B-)
Pitkanen (85,C)-Tim Gleason (83,C)
Jay Harrison (82)-Jamie Mcbain (79, B-)

Cam Ward (89, C)
Brian Boucher (81,C-)

Maybe J.Staal and Skinner Switch.
 
Landeskogien said:
McGinn (79) - Stastny (86) - Jones (83)
Parenteau (83) - Duchene (86) - Hejduk (80)
Landeskog (83) - O'Reilly (84) - Downie (81)
McLeod (78) - Mitchell (78) - Kobasew (78)
Olver (76)

Hejda (82) - Johnson (87)
Wilson (79) - O'Byrne (81)
O'Brien (79) - Zanon (79)
Hunwick (78)

Varlamov (84)
Giguere (81)
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McGinn (81) - Stastny (86) - Jones (83)
Parenteau (83) - Duchene (86) - Hejduk (80)
Landeskog (83) - O'Reilly (84) - Downie (81)
McLeod (77) - Mitchell (78) - Kobasew (78)
Olver (78)

Hejda (81) - Johnson (87)
Wilson (81) - O'Byrne (81)
O'Brien (79) - Zanon (77)
Hunwick (78)

Varlamov (85)
Giguere (81)

Pretty close I guess, I don't see McGinn being a 79 though, he'll be at least an 80.
 
Perron(84 B-)-Backes(86 C)-Oshie(85 B-)
McDonald(84 C-)-Berglund(84 B-) Tarasenko(79 B)
D'Agostini(81 C)-Steen (83 C)-Stewart(84 B-)
Langenbrunner(80 D)-Nichol(80 D)-Reaves(78 C)

Cole(79 B-)-Pietrangelo(86 B-)
Jackman(83 C-)-Shattenkirk(84 B-)
Russell(81 B-)-Polak(81 C)

Halak(88 C)
Elliott (85 C)
 
Kunitz (83) - Malkin (93) - Neal (87)
cookE (82) - Crosby (95) - Dupuis (82)
Adams (78 - Suter (83) - Kennedy (81)
Tangradi (76) - Vitale (77) - Glass (79)

:yo:Letang (88) - Martin (82)
Orpik (83) - Niskanen (81)
Engelland (79) - Despres (76)

Fleury (88)
Vokoun (85)
 
Despite the roster uncertainty due to the ownership saga, I'll take a crack at it:

Boedker (82) - Vermette (83) - Doan (85)
Sullivan (80) - Hanzal (81) - Vrbata (82)
Korpikowski (80) - Gordon (79) - Moss (79)
Torres (79) - Chipchura (76) - Johnson (77)

OEL (86) - Michalek (84)
Yandle (85) - Morris (82)
Klesla (83) - Stone (78)

Smith (87)
LaBarbera (80)
 
Sedins (89 C) - Burrows (85 C)
Booth (82 C) - Kesler (86 C) - Raymond (82 C)
Higgins (83 C) - Schroeder (78 B-) - Hansen (82 C)
Malholtra (80 C) - Lapierre (81 C) - Kassian (77 B)

Hamhuis (83 C) - Bieksa (82 C)
Garrison (82 C) - Edler (85 C)
Ballard (80 C) - Tanev (78 B-)

Schneider (88 B-)
Lack (78 B)
 
umad said:
Sedins (89 C) - Burrows (85 C)
Booth (82 C) - Kesler (86 C) - Raymond (82 C)
Higgins (83 C) - Schroeder (78 B-) - Hansen (82 C)
Malholtra (80 C) - Lapierre (81 C) - Kassian (77 B)

Hamhuis (83 C) - Bieksa (82 C)
Garrison (82 C) - Edler (85 C)
Ballard (80 C) - Tanev (78 B-)

Schneider (88 B-)
Lack (78 B)
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Wat.
 
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